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Wiz Imp

(9,132 posts)
16. More Truth about 1870-1913...
Tue Mar 11, 2025, 11:47 AM
Mar 2025
https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20250208177/trump-says-america-was-at-its-richest-in-the-late-1800s-here-are-the-facts

Troy Senik, the author of a biography of Grover Cleveland, who was U.S. president in the 1880s and 1890s, echoed Meissner's view. It's "just flatly incorrect" to say we were at our richest from 1870 to 1913, Senik said in an email. He pointed to the chart shown above, which indicates that U.S. GDP per capita - when adjusted for inflation - is around six times higher today than it was back then.


https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/trump-loves-gilded-age-tariffs-great-time-rich-119626998

Robert W. Merry, author of “President McKinley: Architect of the American Century,” said McKinley was the leading voice on tariffs at a time when they dominated policy discussions because they were the federal government's chief source of revenue, given that no income tax existed.

But Trump differs with McKinley in using tariffs as a “bludgeon to get other countries to do our bidding on efforts that have nothing to do with revenue, or economic matters or trade." The president has done that with Canada and Mexico, using tariff threats to try to force those countries to take harder lines against drug smuggling and illegal immigration. "Nobody would have even considered such a thing in McKinley’s day,” Merry said.

As chair of the House Ways and Means Committee, McKinley championed the Tariff Act of 1890, which set the then-highest import tax in U.S. history, raising taxes to 49.5% on 1,500-plus items — everything from glass to tin plates to cayenne pepper. The results were quickly poor for the economy and for Republicans. “It led to an increase in prices, a kind of inflation, even before the bill took effect,” Merry said. “The argument was, it was carte blanche for retailers and industrialists who basically jacked up their prices unnecessarily.”

Americans dealt Republicans landslide congressional defeats during the 1890 midterms, voting scores of incumbents out of office — including McKinley. The tariff fallout also helped Grover Cleveland win the White House for Democrats in 1892, after he lost his reelection the previous cycle.

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Its a deadly farce that needs to end yesterday. Pukes need to step up and toss this cretin overboard. Blues Heron Mar 2025 #1
He'll just lie about it and the cult will believe him. How many Republicans does it take to change a light bulb? surfered Mar 2025 #2
It's like the mushroom theory of managing bases and voters Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #4
Actually, ... tariffs make domestic goods more expensive too, plus it's a regressive tax on the poor & middle Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #3
I would assume, also, that with our integrated global economy, many "domestic" goods need cilla4progress Mar 2025 #22
Trump is not capable True Blue American Mar 2025 #5
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick seems like a perfect idiot. dchill Mar 2025 #6
And, as always, his KKKultists will only worship him all the more fervently for it. Orrex Mar 2025 #7
He fumbled the Biden Economy hand off. Not smart. Sneederbunk Mar 2025 #8
Intentionally fumbled. Sky Jewels Mar 2025 #11
Twice impeached, convicted felon, insurrectionist, COVID denier, lied? IronLionZion Mar 2025 #9
"We were at our richest from 1870 to 1913" Josiesdad Mar 2025 #10
Trump (and others) have always had this simplistic view of history jgmiller Mar 2025 #12
The thing is, the rapid growth after WWII was greatly aided Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #13
"We were at our richest from 1870 to 1913." Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #14
If foreign goods get more expensive why would US goods get cheaper? What bullshit. Klarkashton Mar 2025 #15
Right !?!? krkaufman Mar 2025 #25
More Truth about 1870-1913... Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #16
"per capita" krkaufman Mar 2025 #26
Of course not Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #28
I smell a 666koch666 rat whispering in red don's ear not fooled Mar 2025 #30
But keeping the hope alive for maga that at the end louis-t Mar 2025 #17
They have been waiting for the end times for 2,000 years DBoon Mar 2025 #29
I am not an economist but I do actually teach an economics class dsc Mar 2025 #18
I suspect it's a little bit of slight of hand so to speak. Imperialism Inc. Mar 2025 #35
Doesn't matter. He ain't going anywhere Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #19
Yeah, Molly is whistlin' Dixie. maxsolomon Mar 2025 #27
Just hope we are still a republic at that point..... Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #32
I'm sure it'll impact his base like his last round of failed promises: not one fucking iota thebigidea Mar 2025 #20
He's in over his head cilla4progress Mar 2025 #21
He's already talking of expanding the empire. His predecessor with the silly mustache called it 'lebensraum'. Ping Tung Mar 2025 #23
"but American goods are going to get cheaper" krkaufman Mar 2025 #24
I have yet to see a real difference in the polls edhopper Mar 2025 #31
battle lines are drawn. There will be little adjustment IMHO Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #33
"..at our richest from 1870 to 1913," huh? That's Conservative Movement radical boilerplate right there. JHB Mar 2025 #34
Best we can do is: Note his lies LOUDLY; boycott the economy best we can and stage a general strike/week of protest dutch777 Mar 2025 #36
How could this hurt him? Lasher Mar 2025 #37
I hope it catches up to him asap because he is such a cancer in our country. kimbutgar Mar 2025 #38
Pure fantasy... Dem4life1970 Mar 2025 #39
Don't make any campaign promises you can't keep SunImp Mar 2025 #40
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