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In reply to the discussion: Josh Marshall's take (fwiw): Okay, Schumer's speech was a head fake. This is the Senate D caucus trying to fool their... [View all]demmiblue
(39,797 posts)15. Ed Kilgore: Let me be clear: I'm not accusing Chuck Schumer of lying. He's telling us the plan is to support cloture...
Ed Kilgore
@edkilgore.bsky.social
Well, folks, looks like the fix is in: Senate Dems will vote for cloture (i.e., to give up the right to filibuster) on the CR in exchange for a doomed vote on a short-term "clean" CR. Then Republicans will get their dirty CR on a party-line vote. talkingpointsmemo.com/news/after-h...
I hope Chuck Schumer realizes nobody's going to be fooled by this "we oppose the CR but not enough to filibuster it" position. It's just a complicated way of caving. Maybe it's the right thing to do in the end, but if so he shouldn't be so devious about it.
Let me be clear: I'm not accusing Chuck Schumer of lying. He's telling us the plan is to support cloture to get a vote on a 30-day "clean" CR. But doing that means giving up the right to filibuster the GOP's "dirty" CR. That's just a fact. And once that happens, it will pass on a majority vote.
My bottom line, since I have a church event to attend, is that the two parties played chicken in the Senate and enough Dems flinched, for whatever good or bad reasons, to lose the ultimate vote on a "dirty" CR that leaves DOGE and OMB empowered to keep slashing. Hope I'm wrong, but don't think so.
@edkilgore.bsky.social
Well, folks, looks like the fix is in: Senate Dems will vote for cloture (i.e., to give up the right to filibuster) on the CR in exchange for a doomed vote on a short-term "clean" CR. Then Republicans will get their dirty CR on a party-line vote. talkingpointsmemo.com/news/after-h...
I hope Chuck Schumer realizes nobody's going to be fooled by this "we oppose the CR but not enough to filibuster it" position. It's just a complicated way of caving. Maybe it's the right thing to do in the end, but if so he shouldn't be so devious about it.
Let me be clear: I'm not accusing Chuck Schumer of lying. He's telling us the plan is to support cloture to get a vote on a 30-day "clean" CR. But doing that means giving up the right to filibuster the GOP's "dirty" CR. That's just a fact. And once that happens, it will pass on a majority vote.
My bottom line, since I have a church event to attend, is that the two parties played chicken in the Senate and enough Dems flinched, for whatever good or bad reasons, to lose the ultimate vote on a "dirty" CR that leaves DOGE and OMB empowered to keep slashing. Hope I'm wrong, but don't think so.
Let me be clear: I'm not accusing Chuck Schumer of lying. He's telling us the plan is to support cloture to get a vote on a 30-day "clean" CR. But doing that means giving up the right to filibuster the GOP's "dirty" CR. That's just a fact. And once that happens, it will pass on a majority vote.
— Ed Kilgore (@edkilgore.bsky.social) 2025-03-12T22:49:37.460Z
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Josh Marshall's take (fwiw): Okay, Schumer's speech was a head fake. This is the Senate D caucus trying to fool their... [View all]
demmiblue
Mar 2025
OP
If this happens they better be prepared for the tsunami of disgust coming their way.
Nanjeanne
Mar 2025
#3
If true, this is exactly the kind of s*** that's guaranteed to piss off our own side
ms liberty
Mar 2025
#6
Chris Hayes: Problem with having a freakishly plugged in, high-info base is you cannot possibly get away with this kind
demmiblue
Mar 2025
#9
This schumer thing is only delaying the outcome of passing the republican bill by a month.
Think. Again.
Mar 2025
#27
If this story is true, he's done in politics. That's why I don't believe this story.
William769
Mar 2025
#14
Ed Kilgore: Let me be clear: I'm not accusing Chuck Schumer of lying. He's telling us the plan is to support cloture...
demmiblue
Mar 2025
#15
Without further evidence (as opposed to opinion) I think I'll believe Chuck Schumer for the time being
Hekate
Mar 2025
#20
The entire Democratic Party will lose voters if this is true and schumer goes through with it.
Think. Again.
Mar 2025
#28
It's all kayfabe anyway. No one is coming in on a white horse, sword in hand, to save us.
Seeking Serenity
Mar 2025
#29
The American Federation of Government Employees largest govt employee union says NO to bill
Nanjeanne
Mar 2025
#30