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54. we're offering it up now
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 10:12 PM
Mar 2025

...but I fail to see how a shut down government gives us more leverage against a WH and republican party that don't actually care that it's closed for business, and will be able to pick and choose the parameters of our government at will.

It's not as if the CR is the end game., but a government vacated and ready to pluck and meddle isn't necessarily reversible or easily defended by our party out of power.

The end game can't be to just let government fester, our own priorities along with it. There's no end game in the shut down, and so much to lose, because we have no actual power to act in any decisive way to positively affect that oiutcome from a minority position.

This CR may not be the right sword to fall on. Expecting republicans to give in at that point is really something, as we're watching them dismantle government without care or concern for anything. Look ar the Dept of Ed, and the way they used a phony emergency to clear the building.

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I hope he hears from his constituents senseandsensibility Mar 2025 #1
Fuck Chuck! AkFemDem Mar 2025 #2
Fuck Chuck! graycampervan Mar 2025 #61
Democrats never fight for anything. al_liberal Mar 2025 #3
And that's why the party has become so unpopular DSandra Mar 2025 #26
Amen! Shummer is the worse of the lot of them. rich7862 Mar 2025 #30
We keep our powder dry, and they bayonet us. GPV Mar 2025 #52
He needs to be replaced moonshinegnomie Mar 2025 #4
Nah, not Schiff awesomerwb1 Mar 2025 #7
Murphy HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #25
Yes Schiff is a doer. rich7862 Mar 2025 #31
Schiff Is Pretty Good Baron2024 Mar 2025 #49
I was told on good authority edhopper Mar 2025 #5
When you get your request for $ from Chuck, send him a letter instead Raven123 Mar 2025 #6
My understanding is that Senate Democrats are now 'Negotiating With Terrorists'??? Terry_M Mar 2025 #8
Will this be the vote that breaks the parties back for good? Leadership needs a new spine! .nt ImNotGod Mar 2025 #9
After this, why would ANYONE vote for Democrats... regnaD kciN Mar 2025 #28
I have Traildogbob Mar 2025 #10
I expect nothing but despicable things from Republicans EnergizedLib Mar 2025 #11
Senate Dem Leadership? Bread and Circuses Mar 2025 #12
what an unserious and specious charge bigtree Mar 2025 #13
Right on cue BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #18
WTF are you complaining about? Aren't you the ultimate "DU says this. So I'll go this Carlitos Brigante Mar 2025 #59
lol BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #64
Meh... Not really. It just comes across as "I'm so above it all. And you plebes aren't on my level...... Until it's Carlitos Brigante Mar 2025 #66
I didn't make it angrychair Mar 2025 #19
I'm sorry, venting at Marshall bigtree Mar 2025 #37
I get your point angrychair Mar 2025 #42
Where, exactly, does AOC say Bettie Mar 2025 #20
Exactly this angrychair Mar 2025 #21
nowhere does it say Schumer capitulated to their demands and ensure that they get exactly what they want bigtree Mar 2025 #34
This is not accurate angrychair Mar 2025 #39
once the government is shut down bigtree Mar 2025 #41
I get the risks angrychair Mar 2025 #45
but the CR isn't the end game. It's a broad set of numbers that need to be fleshed out in committee bigtree Mar 2025 #46
Democrats have a clean CR angrychair Mar 2025 #47
we're offering it up now bigtree Mar 2025 #54
I admit I don't know the best answer angrychair Mar 2025 #56
I'm thinking that's a far sight better than a period of absolute dread about what Musk is doing in a vacated government bigtree Mar 2025 #58
Again, I don't have the perfect answer angrychair Mar 2025 #60
You are correct. She did not say that. Celerity Mar 2025 #44
AOC: It should be very clear to every Sen. Dem. that any vote for Cloture will also be considered a vote for the bill. demmiblue Mar 2025 #22
Himself, mostly, at this point. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2025 #23
Yeah. demmiblue Mar 2025 #36
There are enough Democratic votes to stop cloture ibegurpard Mar 2025 #24
Schumer can't make that happen by himself bigtree Mar 2025 #32
I'm not ready to indict all Democrats ibegurpard Mar 2025 #35
that's up to the caucus bigtree Mar 2025 #40
If you're going to attempt to co-opt what she is saying Docreed2003 Mar 2025 #38
This must be what the Big Donors want. jalan48 Mar 2025 #14
Can anyone say Merrick Schumer?? nt NEOH Mar 2025 #15
Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #16
Fork time for Chuck, we need an actual opposition JCMach1 Mar 2025 #17
Of course they will Thrill Mar 2025 #27
Newsom, and now Chuck caving in with the Nazis! DSandra Mar 2025 #29
I will call Schumer's office BlueKota Mar 2025 #33
Chuck Schumer should be removed as minority leader. Galraedia Mar 2025 #43
Schumer needs to step aside and let someone take over the leadership Takket Mar 2025 #48
Pathetic. Weak. Pink tutu DEM. BartCop would be outraged too. IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 2025 #50
I don't ForgedCrank Mar 2025 #51
Honestly...maybe there are no winners angrychair Mar 2025 #53
That is ForgedCrank Mar 2025 #55
These are not normal times angrychair Mar 2025 #57
Randi explains this really well. LaRaven Mar 2025 #62
Unreal. That's all I have to say. bif Mar 2025 #63
Smdh. We need a new Senate leader, stat. ObamaKerryDem Mar 2025 #65
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