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In reply to the discussion: Damn them for not winning a no-win situation! [View all]
BComplex
(9,734 posts)35. Number one: I'm not a "fascist" trying to obfuscate.
Number two: the only thing between us and trump/musk is the COURTS...which will be totally shut down if we have a total shut down! (duh?)
Furthermore: without the shut down, some of us will get our social security checks, which for millions of seniors and orphans and disabled people is the ONLY income. Will they eventually "Privatize" or do away with social security? They will definitely try. But NOT shutting the government down will at least borrow some 75+ million Americans another month or two of food/rent/insulin before they shut down social security. Is there a price to pay for that? Of course, whenever you're dealing with republicans, there's going to be a heavy price. But the alternative is worse...a total shut down. No court cases. No Social Security or medicare.
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He is absolutely wrong. This is war and you don't surrender while marching to the first battle.
flashman13
Mar 2025
#60
And are those that will suffer in a prolonged shutdown acceptable collateral damage?
onenote
Mar 2025
#79
They may have the power to delegate that authority but at all times they are to retain their power
in2herbs
Mar 2025
#34
It's not the same. Congress created the federal agencies to which they delegated certain powers,
Ocelot II
Mar 2025
#70
The anger here is about Dem Senators supporting fascism or fighting fascism.
Think. Again.
Mar 2025
#3
That was passed just for that shut down, and the only courts open would be for criminal courts and
BComplex
Mar 2025
#38
It wasn't "passed" , it's explaining how article 3 of the constitution
questionseverything
Mar 2025
#82
Shumer is a corporate Dem and always has been. I have no sympathy for him. We need new honest leadership.
ratchiweenie
Mar 2025
#10
He is Wall Street's senator and he showed us all who he serves today
questionseverything
Mar 2025
#80
Yes, he is big time Wall Street and he will always come down on their side. Time for new leadership. Real leadership.
ratchiweenie
Mar 2025
#116
A shutdown would be a win for feds. Our congress contoninues to turn its back on the working class.
SSJVegeta
Mar 2025
#11
How so? Do you remember how bad the 2018-19 shutdown was for federal employees and the public?
onenote
Mar 2025
#85
Ya I was there. We eventually got paid. Right now there isnt anything worse for us than what is happening right now
SSJVegeta
Mar 2025
#91
If the CR is "no win" then the decision has to be made based on a winning strategy
Martin Eden
Mar 2025
#21
Of course, public outrage could of changed some goals by the repubs
questionseverything
Mar 2025
#81
I know it was fiction, but Jefferson Smith knew what needed to be done in a no-win situation.
Gore1FL
Mar 2025
#29
I wonder how many of the political geniuses here who are thrilled with yet another capitulation
Bluetus
Mar 2025
#30
What is they fight? What was the fight suppose to look at? If worse shutting down cause
LizBeth
Mar 2025
#53
Once again, Democrats come off as weak capitulators who won't back their own perceived principals.
hadEnuf
Mar 2025
#42
Democrats should have learn decades ago how to deal with the Lee Atwater political cesspool.
Gum Logger
Mar 2025
#48
It's simple, you either stand for democracy or you stand for fascism, there is no middle ground.
Hotler
Mar 2025
#46
Exactly. Just posted the same in another thread blamin Schumer. From what I can see,
LizBeth
Mar 2025
#51
Democrats lose because they don't fight. Their silly Congressional traditions are more
Autumn
Mar 2025
#69
When all options are losers, shouldn't you just opt for what is moral? nt
Trueblue Texan
Mar 2025
#86