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Bettie

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54. Honestly, I don't think either of them

Fri Mar 14, 2025, 02:05 PM

Mar 14

is electable.

They will paint Newsom as a coastal elite and "too slick". Even him becoming buddies with a bunch of right wing bro-casters won't help.

Pete is awesome in every way, but every single ad will be about him being gay and how much that harms marriage....though, I've never had a single person be able to give me an answer as to how any marriage that they are not in can possibly harm them. They just yammer on about 'god' and their holy book that they ignore 90% of the time.

I just think our country is filled with small minded idiots who can't see beyond their own hate. They adore that orange asshole because he encourages them to be filled with hate, tells them that it's good. He's their god now., because he told them to become the very worst versions of themselves.

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If the choice were Buttigieg and Newsom, which way would you lean? nt [View all] LAS14 Mar 14 OP

Neither Blue Full Moon Mar 14 #1

Care to share your reasons? nt LAS14 Mar 14 #8

I agree with neither rollin74 Mar 14 #64

Mayor Pete. multigraincracker Mar 14 #2

Buttigieg, but the republicans and others will not vote for him. Bread and Circuses Mar 14 #3

This is my response as well. They can't even vote for a woman yet and we are travelingthrulife Mar 14 #11

Newsom. nt LexVegas Mar 14 #4

Any reason other than electability? nt LAS14 Mar 14 #5

At this point, he is a more engaging candidate for me personally. That could certainly change in the coming years. nt LexVegas Mar 14 #15

Is there anything else that matters? maxsolomon Mar 14 #20

Newsom. To me he is the stronger of the two. I would still choose Kamala over these two gentlemen. Trueblue1968 Mar 14 #94

Not first course on my menu JCMach1 Mar 14 #6

Josh Shapiro OLDMDDEM Mar 14 #78

Also Walz is an entree. Pritzker JCMach1 Mar 14 #86

Neither awesomerwb1 Mar 14 #7

Personal choice would be Buttigieg mvd Mar 14 #9

Might it be that his very first podcast platformed a raging Nazi misogynist? LearnedHand Mar 14 #38

Yep mvd Mar 14 #62

Either would be good BlueKota Mar 14 #10

Tim Walz and Gretchen Whitmer bamagal62 Mar 14 #12

Good ticket. Visa Versa would work for me also. brush Mar 14 #36

Pritzker obamanut2012 Mar 14 #13

Yes! I forgot about Pritzker!!! bamagal62 Mar 14 #72

He is excellent but.... OnDoutside Mar 14 #100

Neither. But at least I like Pete. Nanjeanne Mar 14 #14

I think the argument that Newsom is more 'electable' stopdiggin Mar 14 #16

I'm a Californian & Gavin moonscape Mar 14 #25

there's a tiny smattering of 'populism' in there stopdiggin Mar 14 #107

Buttigieg. He's authentic. nt greyl Mar 14 #17

That's the secret sauce! nt LAS14 Mar 14 #39

And brilliant Easterncedar Mar 14 #58

I lean toward the person who wins the nomination. maxsolomon Mar 14 #18

By 2028 Hillary would beat any Republican. oasis Mar 14 #19

By 2028 hopefully moonscape Mar 14 #26

Hillary is 77 years old and lost votes years ago due to perception of her health.... Melon Mar 15 #111

Not to worry because Hill won't run. If she oasis Mar 15 #113

Post removed Post removed Mar 14 #21

Newsom. He's leftist enough for me and CA has a lot of electoral votes. Ping Tung Mar 14 #22

Buttigieg, hands down. Think. Again. Mar 14 #23

Newsom has marriage baggage. He once married Kimberly Gargoyle. Nanuke Mar 14 #24

Which does lead one to question his judgement. nt LAS14 Mar 14 #43

We don't have a candidate to sell to small town uneducated conservative values. bucolic_frolic Mar 14 #27

Obama was also buoyed by powerful antiwar sentiment leftstreet Mar 14 #33

Iraq War is very valid aspect bucolic_frolic Mar 14 #51

I like Pete a little better but Newsom is more electable. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 14 #28

Newsom - because he'll win. ElementaryPenguin Mar 14 #29

Buttigieg. I don't know about his electability, but the same applies to Newsom. JohnSJ Mar 14 #30

niether Kali999 Mar 14 #31

I actually liked both Kali999 Mar 14 #34

Newsom. Have to be pragmatic given marraige equality issue.. brush Mar 14 #32

I choose Walz. Emile Mar 14 #35

I think he's a good option. If we ever have another election. Scrivener7 Mar 14 #41

Round two with Vance? Polybius Mar 15 #115

How about a cross between the two, NuttenigSon Beringia Mar 14 #37

For President? Buttigieg is better, but Newsom is electable. We are not far enough down that road. Scrivener7 Mar 14 #40

"We need a guy who could be cast in a Lifetime movie as a president." LAS14 Mar 14 #42

Stuff like that has LONG mattered. Celebrity is how trump won. Callie1979 Mar 14 #77

Don't know SocialDemocrat61 Mar 14 #44

Geesh that was a far more difficult question once the thoughts started coming. So many allegorical oracle Mar 14 #45

" But many of my Dem friends had the opposite reaction -- and it wasn't about his personal choices. " LAS14 Mar 14 #56

Oh, they mentioned that he was "stiff" and "was only a mayor," one even said he was "too nice". To allegorical oracle Mar 14 #81

I really like Tim Walz. Haggard Celine Mar 15 #109

Of those two....Newsom Mountainguy Mar 14 #46

Neither can win a national election, IMO. But I'll vote for either one of them if they win the primary. beaglelover Mar 14 #47

Buttigieg by a country mile Rob H. Mar 14 #48

Much as I respect and admire Buttigieg, Republicans would wage a very, very ugly campaign against him. sop Mar 14 #49

Seriously? Nikossitti Mar 14 #50

Walz ratchiweenie Mar 14 #52

If the choice were only one or the other I'd go with Buttigieg. Ocelot II Mar 14 #53

Honestly, I don't think either of them Bettie Mar 14 #54

I'll never vote for Newsom krawhitham Mar 14 #55

I'd vote for a fire hydrant if it was running against a republican. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #119

I'd vote for Pete Buttigieg! Sun-Moon Mar 14 #57

I am not particularly happy with Newsome...I hope we have others who will run... Demsrule86 Mar 14 #59

Pete AZSkiffyGeek Mar 14 #60

The Rhode's Scholar. PETE. slumcamper Mar 14 #61

Neither ,- Love Pete Buttigieg-- But, LGBTQ/Marriage stuff, might be Ars Longa Mar 14 #63

Pete. He's smart AF. Efilroft Sul Mar 14 #65

A person w/high emotional intelligence like Clinton who can win over "regular people." kerry-is-my-prez Mar 14 #66

I support Batman, it is apparent that Americans want to be entertained. Dan Mar 14 #67

Sadly, too true. Democracy is in trouble for just that reason. nt LAS14 Mar 14 #75

I think that the Joker markodochartaigh Mar 14 #91

Of those two, Buttigieg by a wide margin EdmondDantes_ Mar 14 #68

Newsom BannonsLiver Mar 14 #69

We need a macho ticket, Mark Kelly, Wes Moore, radius777 Mar 14 #70

Not a bad idea. And you're right about "environment" Callie1979 Mar 14 #80

We need a BRAINS ticket. Buttigieg/Maddow. milestogo Mar 14 #88

Just for the record, Pete served. EndlessWire Mar 14 #92

I love Pete, but I don't know that either is electable. I'm at a loss. I really, really, really wanted to see a woman Vinca Mar 14 #71

Newsom because getting elected is much more important to me elocs Mar 14 #73

Buttigieg every day of the week and twice on Sundays pinkstarburst Mar 14 #74

Shapiro. Callie1979 Mar 14 #76

Beshear/Whitmer...either order. n/t CincyDem Mar 14 #79

Pete gblady Mar 14 #82

I'm not caring anymore about "firsts". We need to win!! Wanderlust988 Mar 14 #83

Do you really think EndlessWire Mar 14 #95

Neither one. doc03 Mar 14 #84

Both are so... Mike Nelson Mar 14 #85

Seriously? Buttigieg, of course. milestogo Mar 14 #87

Tim Walz n/t aocommunalpunch Mar 14 #89

Lean 180 degrees at Buttigieg. Voltaire2 Mar 14 #90

Let's get real anamnua Mar 14 #93

Let's do get real. EndlessWire Mar 14 #99

Mayor Pete. Hands down...nt SidDithers Mar 14 #96

Definitely Newsom Raine Mar 14 #97

Newsom has more chance to win but prefer Buttigieg. PufPuf23 Mar 14 #98

Newsom because he's my Governor Demovictory9 Mar 14 #101

Whitmer. MontanaFarmer Mar 14 #102

Newsom/Buttigieg '28 Deep State Witch Mar 14 #103

Neither. Neither could get elected president. n/t valleyrogue Mar 14 #104

Walz is really beginning to be a hero. I'd happily vote for him. Scrivener7 Mar 14 #105

Buttigieg. N/t ObamaKerryDem Mar 14 #106

Newsom ZRB Mar 14 #108

Newsom. H2O Man Mar 15 #110

Neither....hoping Mark Cuban gets more into politics. Melon Mar 15 #112

Shapiro flamingdem Mar 15 #114

Gavin Polybius Mar 15 #116

Neither can win now imo Meowmee Mar 15 #117

Are these the only 2 choices 3.75 years from the next Presidential election? DiamondShark Mar 15 #118