General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Anyone with a child like Adam Lanza should [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:17 PM - Edit history (1)
for pre-empting my extremely clever retort.
I'll just say this. Years ago when I was living in a red state desert, a man tried to break into my home hours after I'd been sunbathing in the backyard. The next morning I went out and bought 2 guns to kill any such horrible intruder as mercilessly as I kill the mice who dare enter my home. I have nothing against guns for self defense and I'm not very concerned about people who use them for *sport* even though I find the concept of it being any kind of *sport* ludicrous.
I understand your anger, and even empathize with it because there are 20 innocent kids who won't ever see another *sporting* sunshine but we don't know any details here.
For all we know, those guns were locked up and under triple lock. We have no idea. She was butchered in cold blood and can't tell us what extremes she went through to keep her guns away from a child she realized was becoming a frightening stranger.
I prefer a US with no guns and support fun legislation but first I support creating a society where people don't feel they need those guns (like I did because it took the police almost an hour to get to my home while my neighbor pinned that scum for the eternity before they arrived) but I believe our problem is a LOT deeper than guns vs no guns.
What is it in our society that makes men think they can just break into a woman's home to rape her (or worse)? What is it that makes our classrooms so large and our teachers so disrespected that they can barely weigh in on any problems their students are having? And even when those teachers manage, they're ignored?
Bright children like Adam Lanza, Dylan Klebold, Luka Magnotta, James Holmes are falling through the cracks while given chemical concoctions we don't even understand to "save" them. Only they don't save them and the problem is exacerbated as the pile of corpses just grows higher.
That's where I'm coming from.
Maybe if she hadn't taken him to the range and she didn;t have guns in the house, he would only have have 1-5 victims but that's not a solution, just a reduction of effect.
We have no idea where those guns were or what the last few hours in that home were.
It's even possible she told him she loved him but he was losing it right before the murders as she slept with the keys to the gun cabinet under her pillow so he shot her to get at them. We will never know unless forensics is damn good and shares with us.
I agree that having guns in the house did NOT help but I don't agree they were the problem. I think the problem is much deeper than that and that we need to look at ourselves quickly and answer some very hard questions because as the economic situation here gets worse, these crimes are going to keep increasing and before you know it, or I know it, the perpetrator will be someone we know or love.
(No worries about the shouting.)
There's one other thing I'm going to say here and it has little to do with our exchange but I really want to get it off my chest because it hurts, Hurts, HURTS!
America. We slay so many children around the world. Our military is now officially allowed to kill children and we expect psychotics in our society to respect kids here just because they're "ours"? How can they when someone as sane as I can't understand this double standard? I think a little respect for other lives and our own lives would go a hell of a fucking long way. America, your hypocrisy breaks my heart.