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OnDoutside

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100. He is excellent but....

Reply to obamanut2012 (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:57 PM

Mar 2025

I remember the attacks Christie got because of his weight, and you just know the scum on the right will exploit that to the last with all that "heartbeat away" crap.

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If the choice were Buttigieg and Newsom, which way would you lean? nt [View all] LAS14 Mar 2025 OP

Neither Blue Full Moon Mar 2025 #1

Care to share your reasons? nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #8

I agree with neither rollin74 Mar 2025 #64

Mayor Pete. multigraincracker Mar 2025 #2

Buttigieg, but the republicans and others will not vote for him. Bread and Circuses Mar 2025 #3

This is my response as well. They can't even vote for a woman yet and we are travelingthrulife Mar 2025 #11

Newsom. nt LexVegas Mar 2025 #4

Any reason other than electability? nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #5

At this point, he is a more engaging candidate for me personally. That could certainly change in the coming years. nt LexVegas Mar 2025 #15

Is there anything else that matters? maxsolomon Mar 2025 #20

Newsom. To me he is the stronger of the two. I would still choose Kamala over these two gentlemen. Trueblue1968 Mar 2025 #94

Not first course on my menu JCMach1 Mar 2025 #6

Josh Shapiro OLDMDDEM Mar 2025 #78

Also Walz is an entree. Pritzker JCMach1 Mar 2025 #86

Neither awesomerwb1 Mar 2025 #7

Personal choice would be Buttigieg mvd Mar 2025 #9

Might it be that his very first podcast platformed a raging Nazi misogynist? LearnedHand Mar 2025 #38

Yep mvd Mar 2025 #62

Either would be good BlueKota Mar 2025 #10

Tim Walz and Gretchen Whitmer bamagal62 Mar 2025 #12

Good ticket. Visa Versa would work for me also. brush Mar 2025 #36

Pritzker obamanut2012 Mar 2025 #13

Yes! I forgot about Pritzker!!! bamagal62 Mar 2025 #72

He is excellent but.... OnDoutside Mar 2025 #100

Neither. But at least I like Pete. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #14

I think the argument that Newsom is more 'electable' stopdiggin Mar 2025 #16

I'm a Californian & Gavin moonscape Mar 2025 #25

there's a tiny smattering of 'populism' in there stopdiggin Mar 2025 #107

Buttigieg. He's authentic. nt greyl Mar 2025 #17

That's the secret sauce! nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #39

And brilliant Easterncedar Mar 2025 #58

I lean toward the person who wins the nomination. maxsolomon Mar 2025 #18

By 2028 Hillary would beat any Republican. oasis Mar 2025 #19

By 2028 hopefully moonscape Mar 2025 #26

Hillary is 77 years old and lost votes years ago due to perception of her health.... Melon Mar 2025 #111

Not to worry because Hill won't run. If she oasis Mar 2025 #113

Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #21

Newsom. He's leftist enough for me and CA has a lot of electoral votes. Ping Tung Mar 2025 #22

Buttigieg, hands down. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #23

Newsom has marriage baggage. He once married Kimberly Gargoyle. Nanuke Mar 2025 #24

Which does lead one to question his judgement. nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #43

We don't have a candidate to sell to small town uneducated conservative values. bucolic_frolic Mar 2025 #27

Obama was also buoyed by powerful antiwar sentiment leftstreet Mar 2025 #33

Iraq War is very valid aspect bucolic_frolic Mar 2025 #51

I like Pete a little better but Newsom is more electable. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2025 #28

Newsom - because he'll win. ElementaryPenguin Mar 2025 #29

Buttigieg. I don't know about his electability, but the same applies to Newsom. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #30

niether Kali999 Mar 2025 #31

I actually liked both Kali999 Mar 2025 #34

Newsom. Have to be pragmatic given marraige equality issue.. brush Mar 2025 #32

I choose Walz. Emile Mar 2025 #35

I think he's a good option. If we ever have another election. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #41

Round two with Vance? Polybius Mar 2025 #115

How about a cross between the two, NuttenigSon Beringia Mar 2025 #37

For President? Buttigieg is better, but Newsom is electable. We are not far enough down that road. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #40

"We need a guy who could be cast in a Lifetime movie as a president." LAS14 Mar 2025 #42

Stuff like that has LONG mattered. Celebrity is how trump won. Callie1979 Mar 2025 #77

Don't know SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2025 #44

Geesh that was a far more difficult question once the thoughts started coming. So many allegorical oracle Mar 2025 #45

" But many of my Dem friends had the opposite reaction -- and it wasn't about his personal choices. " LAS14 Mar 2025 #56

Oh, they mentioned that he was "stiff" and "was only a mayor," one even said he was "too nice". To allegorical oracle Mar 2025 #81

I really like Tim Walz. Haggard Celine Mar 2025 #109

Of those two....Newsom Mountainguy Mar 2025 #46

Neither can win a national election, IMO. But I'll vote for either one of them if they win the primary. beaglelover Mar 2025 #47

Buttigieg by a country mile Rob H. Mar 2025 #48

Much as I respect and admire Buttigieg, Republicans would wage a very, very ugly campaign against him. sop Mar 2025 #49

Seriously? Nikossitti Mar 2025 #50

Walz ratchiweenie Mar 2025 #52

If the choice were only one or the other I'd go with Buttigieg. Ocelot II Mar 2025 #53

Honestly, I don't think either of them Bettie Mar 2025 #54

I'll never vote for Newsom krawhitham Mar 2025 #55

I'd vote for a fire hydrant if it was running against a republican. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #119

I'd vote for Pete Buttigieg! Sun-Moon Mar 2025 #57

I am not particularly happy with Newsome...I hope we have others who will run... Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #59

Pete AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2025 #60

The Rhode's Scholar. PETE. slumcamper Mar 2025 #61

Neither ,- Love Pete Buttigieg-- But, LGBTQ/Marriage stuff, might be Ars Longa Mar 2025 #63

Pete. He's smart AF. Efilroft Sul Mar 2025 #65

A person w/high emotional intelligence like Clinton who can win over "regular people." kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2025 #66

I support Batman, it is apparent that Americans want to be entertained. Dan Mar 2025 #67

Sadly, too true. Democracy is in trouble for just that reason. nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #75

I think that the Joker markodochartaigh Mar 2025 #91

Of those two, Buttigieg by a wide margin EdmondDantes_ Mar 2025 #68

Newsom BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #69

We need a macho ticket, Mark Kelly, Wes Moore, radius777 Mar 2025 #70

Not a bad idea. And you're right about "environment" Callie1979 Mar 2025 #80

We need a BRAINS ticket. Buttigieg/Maddow. milestogo Mar 2025 #88

Just for the record, Pete served. EndlessWire Mar 2025 #92

I love Pete, but I don't know that either is electable. I'm at a loss. I really, really, really wanted to see a woman Vinca Mar 2025 #71

Newsom because getting elected is much more important to me elocs Mar 2025 #73

Buttigieg every day of the week and twice on Sundays pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #74

Shapiro. Callie1979 Mar 2025 #76

Beshear/Whitmer...either order. n/t CincyDem Mar 2025 #79

Pete gblady Mar 2025 #82

I'm not caring anymore about "firsts". We need to win!! Wanderlust988 Mar 2025 #83

Do you really think EndlessWire Mar 2025 #95

Neither one. doc03 Mar 2025 #84

Both are so... Mike Nelson Mar 2025 #85

Seriously? Buttigieg, of course. milestogo Mar 2025 #87

Tim Walz n/t aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #89

Lean 180 degrees at Buttigieg. Voltaire2 Mar 2025 #90

Let's get real anamnua Mar 2025 #93

Let's do get real. EndlessWire Mar 2025 #99

Mayor Pete. Hands down...nt SidDithers Mar 2025 #96

Definitely Newsom Raine Mar 2025 #97

Newsom has more chance to win but prefer Buttigieg. PufPuf23 Mar 2025 #98

Newsom because he's my Governor Demovictory9 Mar 2025 #101

Whitmer. MontanaFarmer Mar 2025 #102

Newsom/Buttigieg '28 Deep State Witch Mar 2025 #103

Neither. Neither could get elected president. n/t valleyrogue Mar 2025 #104

Walz is really beginning to be a hero. I'd happily vote for him. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #105

Buttigieg. N/t ObamaKerryDem Mar 2025 #106

Newsom ZRB Mar 2025 #108

Newsom. H2O Man Mar 2025 #110

Neither....hoping Mark Cuban gets more into politics. Melon Mar 2025 #112

Shapiro flamingdem Mar 2025 #114

Gavin Polybius Mar 2025 #116

Neither can win now imo Meowmee Mar 2025 #117

Are these the only 2 choices 3.75 years from the next Presidential election? DiamondShark Mar 2025 #118