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79. And are those that will suffer in a prolonged shutdown acceptable collateral damage?

Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:53 PM

Mar 2025

I support the judicial efforts to block various actions taken by Trump/Musk. And I'm pleased when those efforts are successful, because it means the employees and members of the public who would otherwise suffer are better off. Losing those cases would result in more harm and maybe that makes more people pissed at Trump/Musk. It's hard to have it both ways.

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Damn them for not winning a no-win situation! [View all] genxlib Mar 2025 OP

Well said. N/t FSogol Mar 2025 #1

I agree. I don't like it but Chuck is making the right call here. underpants Mar 2025 #2

I disagree, schumer is wrong on this. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #4

By Dave Troy of America 2.news rainy Mar 2025 #37

here: rainy Mar 2025 #43

Who?? awesomerwb1 Mar 2025 #54

Ah Hegel mr715 Mar 2025 #90

He is absolutely wrong. This is war and you don't surrender while marching to the first battle. flashman13 Mar 2025 #60

And are those that will suffer in a prolonged shutdown acceptable collateral damage? onenote Mar 2025 #79

Art. 1, Section 8, gab13by13 Mar 2025 #7

Yes they have that power InstantGratification Mar 2025 #26

They may have the power to delegate that authority but at all times they are to retain their power in2herbs Mar 2025 #34

It's not the same. Congress created the federal agencies to which they delegated certain powers, Ocelot II Mar 2025 #70

He did. SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #95

Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #32

What an utterly disgusting comment. tritsofme Mar 2025 #114

I disagree. He needed to make them sweat it out a little bit. lees1975 Mar 2025 #83

The anger here is about Dem Senators supporting fascism or fighting fascism. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #3

No. It's a lot more complicated than that. BComplex Mar 2025 #16

No, the bottom line is simple... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #19

Number one: I'm not a "fascist" trying to obfuscate. BComplex Mar 2025 #35

No, the courts would not be shutdown... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #36

That was passed just for that shut down, and the only courts open would be for criminal courts and BComplex Mar 2025 #38

The doge cases aren't Federal cases? Think. Again. Mar 2025 #39

They aren't criminal cases. n/t BComplex Mar 2025 #58

But they ARE Federal cases. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #63

It wasn't "passed" , it's explaining how article 3 of the constitution questionseverything Mar 2025 #82

Hard to believe Cirsium Mar 2025 #105

You and I are SO on the same page on this -misanthroptimist Mar 2025 #61

When they capitulate, thay are. nt William769 Mar 2025 #5

I certainly won't flame you for your post stoned Mar 2025 #6

If I prove your point by flaming you orangecrush Mar 2025 #8

Yes it is genxlib Mar 2025 #27

... orangecrush Mar 2025 #67

You will ForgedCrank Mar 2025 #9

I don't have much control over their decisions. LeftInTX Mar 2025 #55

Shumer is a corporate Dem and always has been. I have no sympathy for him. We need new honest leadership. ratchiweenie Mar 2025 #10

Distrust happy feet Mar 2025 #22

He is Wall Street's senator and he showed us all who he serves today questionseverything Mar 2025 #80

Yes, he is big time Wall Street and he will always come down on their side. Time for new leadership. Real leadership. ratchiweenie Mar 2025 #116

A shutdown would be a win for feds. Our congress contoninues to turn its back on the working class. SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #11

How so? Do you remember how bad the 2018-19 shutdown was for federal employees and the public? onenote Mar 2025 #85

Ya I was there. We eventually got paid. Right now there isnt anything worse for us than what is happening right now SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #91

No flames from me Sucha NastyWoman Mar 2025 #12

It's about trust snowybirdie Mar 2025 #13

We Democratic voters.. Escape Mar 2025 #14

They deserve blame when they won't use what power they have HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #15

Exactly nt XanaDUer2 Mar 2025 #17

Americans were behind Democrats most would blame Trump/MAGA uponit7771 Mar 2025 #18

There was no right answer, both options had traps and poison pills ms liberty Mar 2025 #20

If the CR is "no win" then the decision has to be made based on a winning strategy Martin Eden Mar 2025 #21

Of course, public outrage could of changed some goals by the repubs questionseverything Mar 2025 #81

Not having... littlemissmartypants Mar 2025 #23

Nope. Why cede these issues preemptively? Arazi Mar 2025 #24

Wrong. Damn them for not doing ANYTHING Bluetus Mar 2025 #25

Yep, voters caused this. Let them soak in it. Wingus Dingus Mar 2025 #28

I know it was fiction, but Jefferson Smith knew what needed to be done in a no-win situation. Gore1FL Mar 2025 #29

I wonder how many of the political geniuses here who are thrilled with yet another capitulation Bluetus Mar 2025 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Bengus81 Mar 2025 #31

They're trading away for "maybe" six months down the road. mymomwasright Mar 2025 #33

Not winning is one thing. Not fighting is another. Prairie Gates Mar 2025 #40

What is they fight? What was the fight suppose to look at? If worse shutting down cause LizBeth Mar 2025 #53

Politics as usual. Ping Tung Mar 2025 #41

Once again, Democrats come off as weak capitulators who won't back their own perceived principals. hadEnuf Mar 2025 #42

Democrats should have learn decades ago how to deal with the Lee Atwater political cesspool. Gum Logger Mar 2025 #48

Having us fighting each other is part of the plan. johnp3907 Mar 2025 #44

Exactly!!!! LeftInTX Mar 2025 #56

Why get in the way of a perfectly good train wreck? ColoradoHoosier Mar 2025 #45

This is the argument for getting out of their way genxlib Mar 2025 #73

It's simple, you either stand for democracy or you stand for fascism, there is no middle ground. Hotler Mar 2025 #46

You're right. CaptainTruth Mar 2025 #47

We have trusted this leadership Hornedfrog2000 Mar 2025 #49

Exactly! Stuckinthebush Mar 2025 #50

Exactly. Just posted the same in another thread blamin Schumer. From what I can see, LizBeth Mar 2025 #51

Democrats are always wrong wryter2000 Mar 2025 #52

No flames from me. I've stayed out of this whole discussion Ocelot II Mar 2025 #57

Totally agree DownriverDem Mar 2025 #59

That whole "this is why we lose" shtick is pure gaslighting Orrex Mar 2025 #62

Agree. ananda Mar 2025 #64

Gonna disagree... Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #65

Hey, Mt. Passive aggressive.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #66

I will accept the 'passive aggressive' criticism as valid genxlib Mar 2025 #74

As of this morning. FOTUS is praising MontanaMama Mar 2025 #68

Democrats lose because they don't fight. Their silly Congressional traditions are more Autumn Mar 2025 #69

genxlib ........... Upthevibe Mar 2025 #71

We needed strength and Schumer gave us this. Sneederbunk Mar 2025 #72

Thanks Progressive dog Mar 2025 #75

no Skittles Mar 2025 #76

The Onion speaks truth once again. Gimpyknee Mar 2025 #92

The power we had was to not help them with the 60 vote threshold questionseverything Mar 2025 #77

It's time for new leadership. Gimpyknee Mar 2025 #94

Largely agree, as posted ... pat_k Mar 2025 #78

Chuck Schumer JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #84

When all options are losers, shouldn't you just opt for what is moral? nt Trueblue Texan Mar 2025 #86

All their options sucked mcar Mar 2025 #87

IMHO it is a lose .. lose choice for Dems godsentme Mar 2025 #88

They don't have to win, just fight. Buzz cook Mar 2025 #89

I agree. Sessuch Mar 2025 #96

This was not a coin flip, the Democratic majority Buddyzbuddy Mar 2025 #93

What "Democratic majority of Senators" are you talking about? Our Dems are in the minority in both Houses. Hekate Mar 2025 #99

The majority of Democratic Senators. Buddyzbuddy Mar 2025 #103

Cheating bastards rickyhall Mar 2025 #97

Thx genxlib Hekate Mar 2025 #98

Exactly. You don't blame the kidnapping on the parent who paid the ransom. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #100

The darkness approaches. Morbius Mar 2025 #101

The anger is because he never really tried. yourout Mar 2025 #102

It wasn't "no win" Cirsium Mar 2025 #104

Bullshit iemanja Mar 2025 #106

"This battle was lost in November." J_William_Ryan Mar 2025 #107

The Kobayashi Maru BidenRocks Mar 2025 #108

Agree ... nt Raine Mar 2025 #109

lol... I like your Spirit, genXlib. Cha Mar 2025 #110

I listened to his reasoning on Chris Hayes' show Meowmee Mar 2025 #111

K&R nt PunkinPi Mar 2025 #112

I couldn't agree with you more Pototan Mar 2025 #113

A hearty rec! True Dough Mar 2025 #115