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Escurumbele

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93. Actually, the Spanish-American war in Cuba was a success, and yes, everytime you fight a war you run the risk
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 08:27 PM
Mar 2025

of getting killed, he was also very brave (some people may think a bit stupid) because he was not afraid to be in the middle of a fight. He also was a hunter, something I don't agree with but, it was the times, and he went solo hunting which was very risky, he did things that were, to some, crazy but to him things that he loved doing and fear was not a factor.

The one thing I did not agree, at all, with him was his sending his kids to fight a war that he knew would get them killed, and I believe he regretted it , and never recovered from it.

You are correct that he won the presidency because McKinley died, but he would have been president even if McKinley had completed his term, Roosevelt was a doer, he was charismatic, a great speaker, and people loved him, so he would have been president anyway, and he won his 2nd term as president, and as you can see below, it was the republicans who prevented him from a 3rd term.

I am not sure if I interpreted your post correctly, and if I don't, please accept my apologies but it sounds like you infer that he would have never been president had McKinley not died? Which I don't agree with, he was already a very popular man.

1912
Populist Theodore “Teddy” Roosevelt came to the presidency after the assassination of President William McKinley in 1901. He was reelected in 1905, served his second term and then, following tradition, announced he would not seek a third term in 1909. However, by 1912, he has become so disenchanted with the man who followed him, William Taft, that he decides to run. He does not get the nomination of the Republican Party, so he organizes the Progressive Party, which is also known as the Bull Moose Party, and runs under its banner. Although he receives more votes than Taft, the split among Republicans hands the election to Democrat Woodrow Wilson.

republicans did not like him because he was a progressive. If Democrats fought harder to weaken republican propaganda against progressives (well, they have to start by supporting progressives), then it would not be a factor. The same that republicans do to sell their lies, even though they are plain to see, the same Democrats must do to combat and out republican lies, as well as to sell Democratic ideals and the one thing we all complain about? To tell the World of their achievements.

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Has nothing to do with age, gab13by13 Mar 2025 #1
I think the post is referring to "old" as the attitude and actions, FoxNewsSucks Mar 2025 #32
Yup, many of them are stuck in their old ways. They cannot see that the game has changed. Magoo48 Mar 2025 #88
You have a point but, the poster has a few more. There are always exceptions, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren Escurumbele Mar 2025 #69
Teddy Roosevelt only became president because MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #85
Actually, the Spanish-American war in Cuba was a success, and yes, everytime you fight a war you run the risk Escurumbele Mar 2025 #93
I don't know what would have happened if McKinley MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #98
Power is vested in seniority alarimer Mar 2025 #2
Yes indeed. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #4
Too much money in the electoral system. Get money out and things get better. Escurumbele Mar 2025 #70
Bingo. SergeStorms Mar 2025 #80
DURec leftstreet Mar 2025 #3
who is looking after the interests of furloughed workers bigtree Mar 2025 #5
Have you seen my reply to you yet? ReRe Mar 2025 #29
I just caught this on the way down bigtree Mar 2025 #35
Good questions. Right now, re: the hows, this KPN Mar 2025 #31
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2025 #6
Young kids like don't remember the '50s with ancient southern politicians Wonder Why Mar 2025 #7
what kills me is Skittles Mar 2025 #8
you got that right. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #9
If you get hidden, probably at least one of my comments slightlv Mar 2025 #10
I love your comment and support. thanks. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #12
If I didn't already have some FoxNewsSucks Mar 2025 #34
THAT is really IT. The "fire in their belly." calimary Mar 2025 #52
+1 Emile Mar 2025 #100
Love this post. hamsterjill Mar 2025 #11
Thanks. I am pleasantly surprised at the reactions to my rant! NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #13
I also think that it needs to be clearer that when we "bitch, gripe, and moan" slightlv Mar 2025 #18
Money talks. Those in leadership tend to be the bigger fundraisers. RockRaven Mar 2025 #14
understood, and absolutely. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #16
Good explanation for what is wrong, but I would say KPN Mar 2025 #42
It's frowned upon to criticize party leadership or say the direction of the party is headed in the wrong way. SunImp Mar 2025 #15
which I find shocking...but then again, I am not a follower. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #17
And that's why we're fucked so badly. FoxNewsSucks Mar 2025 #19
Amen. KPN Mar 2025 #43
Kick dalton99a Mar 2025 #20
I couldn't agree more. FoxNewsSucks Mar 2025 #21
K&R spanone Mar 2025 #22
Their wealth. Schumer's is about 80 million LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #23
This is NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!!!! DaBronx Mar 2025 #36
Just about everything is wrong due to the AI. But LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #41
your #'s seem in line with this report cadoman Mar 2025 #50
It could be either set of numbers looking at the disclosure form. LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #55
I would encourage you to visit Politifact DaBronx Mar 2025 #58
Look, I have no gripe with Sen Schumer's income, really it is about the system. LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #61
Truth matters regardless of your opinions on these issues DaBronx Mar 2025 #62
Take your choice. lildDemz Mar 2025 #82
The old guys? Aussie105 Mar 2025 #24
Out of curiosity, are you really from Down Under? ;-) ReRe Mar 2025 #48
old? orchidlady Mar 2025 #91
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2025 #25
thanks for reading it! NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #26
Two mentions of Bernie. I am 76 and never stopped advocating for civil rights. And I never will. usonian Mar 2025 #27
That's it In a nutshell. KPN Mar 2025 #44
It's easy to say "Citizens United must go." yardwork Mar 2025 #63
I'm with you every step of the way and moniss Mar 2025 #28
amazing isn't it? we are "extreme" because we believe in equality in every dimension - NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #30
Epic quote from the OP Bobstandard Mar 2025 #33
A technical/historical viewpoint: Aussie105 Mar 2025 #37
I wish I could Rec this post 10,000 times! red dog 1 Mar 2025 #38
i really dont see how this doesnt end in violence moonshinegnomie Mar 2025 #39
Surrendering? Aussie105 Mar 2025 #40
I'm pissed off that Biden, Harris, Obama, Clinton and others are staying out of this Gimpyknee Mar 2025 #45
Agree. This is not a normal situation. Not at all. JanMichael Mar 2025 #92
It takes big money to be elected. CoopersDad Mar 2025 #46
Wonderfully great post. Kudos for taking the time KPN Mar 2025 #47
With ya, NewHendoLib! calimary Mar 2025 #49
Right there with you NHL!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #51
Kick for the day shift NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #53
Part of it is simply demographics. The size of the boomer generation means there are currently more of them in WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2025 #54
+1. Millennials could be the ones to change things radius777 Mar 2025 #66
This. n/t OneGrassRoot Mar 2025 #56
There is old & then there is old. William769 Mar 2025 #57
Your comments are always appreciated, friend. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #59
Many here were pissed when Biden dropped out Kaleva Mar 2025 #60
Citizens United Bettie Mar 2025 #64
I feel like there was a generation that just didn't show up for politics. travelingthrulife Mar 2025 #65
Yes, Republicans have been building up asshole leadership through Turning Point USA. intheflow Mar 2025 #67
Fuck the orange asshole and his minions. (borrowed content) NotHardly Mar 2025 #68
NewHendoLib CentralBlueTexan Mar 2025 #71
You're the age of my little brother - where ever the hell he went. NNadir Mar 2025 #72
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wow! brilliant! thanks. bluboid Mar 2025 #74
I guess I'm left wondering Littlered Mar 2025 #75
I know nothing, that's why i post bucolic_frolic Mar 2025 #76
Well said Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #77
Many of us feel the same way you do... n/t PatrickforB Mar 2025 #78
Not much to do with old age, as it does old outdated political ideas. Crowman2009 Mar 2025 #79
Amen. Torrent63 Mar 2025 #81
And, I expect this reply to be removed as well, but you asked. OldBaldy1701E Mar 2025 #83
69 is not 'so old.' elleng Mar 2025 #84
I wish I could turn back the clock and be 69 again. LOL Emile Mar 2025 #99
The Democratic bench is very deep MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #86
Old is not age related KSL-Washington Mar 2025 #87
I like the way you frame it senseandsensibility Mar 2025 #89
Thank you. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #90
If they are still alive Progressive dog Mar 2025 #94
When a political system gets stale and is only motivated by self interest . . . Aussie105 Mar 2025 #95
Please stop with the age votes. tavernier Mar 2025 #96
you missed my point. it's not the age of us voters. it is the age of our leaders. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #102
Amen! LoisB Mar 2025 #97
You can say the same on the right Woodwizard Mar 2025 #101
Trashing the thread. valleyrogue Mar 2025 #103
You miss the point too. Trash away NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #104
I personally love the old-school Democrats stoned Mar 2025 #105
The longer they stay in office and the wealthier they get the more out Autumn Mar 2025 #106
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