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angrychair

(10,630 posts) Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:45 PM Mar 15

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So only these 10 people were right? [View all]

So Adam Schiff was wrong? Bernie Sanders was wrong? Cory Booker was wrong? Elizabeth Warren was wrong? Every single Democrat in the House was wrong?
MediasTouch are wrong? Lincoln Project are wrong?
Every single pro-democracy organization in the country was wrong? All the large federal employees unions were wrong?
Almost every pro-democracy intellectual was wrong?

Either everyone else is wrong and only these 10 people are right. There is no third option.

I fail to understand how so many are willing to believe these 10 people were right and literally some of the most respected people and pro-democracy organizations in the country were all wrong absolutely baffles me.

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So only these 10 people were right? [View all] angrychair Mar 15 OP

No, they were extremely wrong. Think. Again. Mar 15 #1

Sorry that's a little ambiguous angrychair Mar 15 #3

Sorry, it was a reply to the question asked in the title. Think. Again. Mar 15 #11

Could the 10 be considered the "conservative wing" of the Democratic Party? LiberalArkie Mar 15 #36

No Wiz Imp Mar 15 #37

Thank you. I do not have the patience to look through their voting records. LiberalArkie Mar 16 #74

Just for the record, King is not a Democrat Bluetus Mar 15 #45

Sound like a wing we don't need... Think. Again. Mar 15 #49

While mr715 Mar 15 #60

We really don't have the time for that... Think. Again. Mar 15 #66

Yes, I agree PatSeg Mar 16 #98

I vote for Chris Murphy. CrispyQ Mar 16 #103

Yes, Chris Murphy would be an excellent choice PatSeg Mar 16 #105

They could be the 10 who speed up the end of democracy RiverStone Mar 16 #97

Baffles me too claudette Mar 15 #2

Good question! This was s horrible precedent. Whyisthisstillclose Mar 15 #4

What's yourpoint? Right or wrong about what? brush Mar 15 #5

I made it clear angrychair Mar 15 #9

"...about just forcing a shutdown..." is what wasn't clear in your OP. brush Mar 15 #13

Did Schumer orchestrate the ten KT2000 Mar 15 #6

That is a good question Bluetus Mar 15 #52

Durbin is in an EXTREMELY Safe seat. SuzannaD Mar 16 #101

Good For You ProfessorGAC Mar 16 #106

Absolutely. But it is absolutely insulting for this safe seat guy Bluetus Mar 16 #107

That was my thought... pattyloutwo Mar 16 #102

Trump and little Mikey Johnson thinks so. Trump Emile Mar 15 #7

Trump hasn't stopped boasting about the mandate since November Wiz Imp Mar 15 #38

Yeah it's obnoxious ibegurpard Mar 15 #8

You & me both brother. William769 Mar 15 #10

We don't know, and won't probably ever know, who was right or wrong. Srkdqltr Mar 15 #12

A crap choice either way... druidity33 Mar 15 #14

You're ignoring the major done to the Democratic Party... Think. Again. Mar 15 #51

And bringing bills to the floor that dems had no hand in writing. CrispyQ Mar 16 #104

Shutting it down would have had other consequences . . . . Tansy_Gold Mar 15 #69

"Shutting it down would have had other consequences . . . . . that would have made (eventually) turning it back on Amaryllis Mar 16 #86

Well, for one thing Tansy_Gold Mar 16 #96

That was what sealed it for me too - where is the off-ramp? ANd who turns it back on? and do they have any incentive to Amaryllis Mar 16 #84

Sorry, no, that's my point angrychair Mar 15 #15

Very flawed logic. The overwhelming majority is not always right. Wiz Imp Mar 15 #31

I gotta tell you DENVERPOPS Mar 15 #46

Um, they did challenge the 2000 election and the Supreme Court ruled against them Wiz Imp Mar 15 #59

Um - and the 2024 election. n/t yellow dahlia Mar 15 #67

That is a logical fallacy angrychair Mar 15 #48

It just means every rule has its outliers. Wiz Imp Mar 15 #58

How is it not democracy ? MichMan Mar 16 #79

Agreeing with totalitarian dic-fucking-tators is the WRONG FUCKING CHOICE Alpeduez21 Mar 15 #39

If they shut it down, they don't have to start it up again!!! Than we will be in deeper shit than now. Srkdqltr Mar 15 #43

You really think even their own magats would let them keep it shut down? Think. Again. Mar 15 #53

Did you think their own would let them do what they are doing now? Of course they would cheer it. Srkdqltr Mar 15 #57

I think it might actually have been the turning point we need... Think. Again. Mar 15 #64

Nah. Think again. nt. druidity33 Mar 16 #72

Well, sooner or later the magats will start feeling the effects of trump.... Think. Again. Mar 16 #73

There is no negotiating with Trump and the Republican party. None. hadEnuf Mar 16 #108

Don't forget Bernie shanti Mar 15 #16

True angrychair Mar 15 #17

Yes. Apparently we are bad Democrats if we agree with the hundreds of Democrats Scrivener7 Mar 15 #18

What's going on now and what will go on in the next six months Tribetime Mar 15 #19

Uh oh... GiqueCee Mar 15 #23

Yep. Insurers, like bookies, set the odds and take their vigorish. Marcuse Mar 15 #30

They are 100% correct. Blue Full Moon Mar 15 #20

Shutting down the government would have hurt Democrats. Emile Mar 15 #21

I think it's complicated. Joinfortmill Mar 15 #22

What's complicated? angrychair Mar 15 #26

Please, I didn't say anyone was wrong. Joinfortmill Mar 15 #56

I apologize if that came across as rude angrychair Mar 15 #68

I hear you. Joinfortmill Mar 16 #77

Perplexing orangecrush Mar 15 #24

This post by lapucelle helped me see it from a different perspective: liberalla Mar 15 #25

I appreciate the sentiment angrychair Mar 15 #28

Same here. WHat changed my opinion was when I learned that a shutdown could be permanent. And they would Amaryllis Mar 15 #54

I certainly think it's more nuanced politically than that. MontanaFarmer Mar 15 #27

That seems unlikely angrychair Mar 15 #32

11 people ibegurpard Mar 15 #33

No they were wrong mountain grammy Mar 15 #29

I agree angrychair Mar 15 #40

Senators and Representatives are elected to do the will of the voters 3825-87867 Mar 15 #34

If that were true we would have never had the Civil Right Act pass Wiz Imp Mar 15 #41

I doubt a majority of residents in their states wanted the government to be shut down. MichMan Mar 16 #81

No. 10 took the bullets so the others can stand on principle. I get it. SunSeeker Mar 15 #35

Sorry to brust that bubble angrychair Mar 15 #42

It's not a "bubble." Dial back the condescension a touch. SunSeeker Mar 15 #47

We blew our chances angrychair Mar 15 #50

Yes, according to the K-street beltway creatures that control things Bluetus Mar 15 #44

Screw Fetterman and the others...he dresses like he's poor Tribetime Mar 15 #55

There is indeed a third option. Morbius Mar 15 #61

I think it's more like... LudwigPastorius Mar 15 #62

The defense of the 10 remind me of Garland. Emile Mar 15 #63

Faulty reasoning using the logical fallacy of appeal to majority EdmondDantes_ Mar 15 #65

Not about the majority angrychair Mar 15 #71

Weird that you say it's not about the majority since that's the entire argument EdmondDantes_ Mar 16 #75

As far as he is concerned, these 10 democrats and every fucking republican were right Autumn Mar 15 #70

Does the majority of US citizens want the government to be shut down for a long extended period of time? Martin Eden Mar 16 #76

It was all theater! They were all in on it AkFemDem Mar 16 #78

So the 10 were right and tramp and the republicans would do nothing to harm America even though 3825-87867 Mar 16 #80

Those 10 were the adults who stopped a tragic shutdown tritsofme Mar 16 #82

Those 10 voted with the Republican majority. Emile Mar 16 #85

They did the right thing, and denied Musk the shutdown he desperately wanted. tritsofme Mar 16 #87

Trump and Musk think they did the right thing too. Emile Mar 16 #88

They wanted a shutdown "caused" by Democrats to muddy the waters tritsofme Mar 16 #89

Trump praised Schumer Emile Mar 16 #90

A good indication that Trump is lying is that his lips are moving. tritsofme Mar 16 #91

Is Schumer dotting the I and crossing the t? Emile Mar 16 #92

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, but sure. tritsofme Mar 16 #94

LOL Emile Mar 16 #95

"History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians. Ping Tung Mar 16 #83

Maybe it is a situation both a little bit right, both a little bit wrong. I seem to read valid and strong LizBeth Mar 16 #93

The only ones in the wrong are Trump and his MAGAt cult. aeromanKC Mar 16 #99

Right now, instead of doing his job angrychair Mar 16 #100