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Emile

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21. Shutting down the government would have hurt Democrats.

Sat Mar 15, 2025, 05:46 PM

Mar 2025

I've seen that message in other threads.

If that was true, the majority party (Republicans) would have shut her down just to hurt the Democrats.

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So only these 10 people were right? [View all] angrychair Mar 2025 OP

No, they were extremely wrong. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #1

Sorry that's a little ambiguous angrychair Mar 2025 #3

Sorry, it was a reply to the question asked in the title. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #11

Could the 10 be considered the "conservative wing" of the Democratic Party? LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #36

No Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #37

Thank you. I do not have the patience to look through their voting records. LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #74

Just for the record, King is not a Democrat Bluetus Mar 2025 #45

Sound like a wing we don't need... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #49

While mr715 Mar 2025 #60

We really don't have the time for that... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #66

Yes, I agree PatSeg Mar 2025 #98

I vote for Chris Murphy. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #103

Yes, Chris Murphy would be an excellent choice PatSeg Mar 2025 #105

They could be the 10 who speed up the end of democracy RiverStone Mar 2025 #97

Baffles me too claudette Mar 2025 #2

Good question! This was s horrible precedent. Whyisthisstillclose Mar 2025 #4

What's yourpoint? Right or wrong about what? brush Mar 2025 #5

I made it clear angrychair Mar 2025 #9

"...about just forcing a shutdown..." is what wasn't clear in your OP. brush Mar 2025 #13

Did Schumer orchestrate the ten KT2000 Mar 2025 #6

That is a good question Bluetus Mar 2025 #52

Durbin is in an EXTREMELY Safe seat. SuzannaD Mar 2025 #101

Good For You ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #106

Absolutely. But it is absolutely insulting for this safe seat guy Bluetus Mar 2025 #107

That was my thought... pattyloutwo Mar 2025 #102

Trump and little Mikey Johnson thinks so. Trump Emile Mar 2025 #7

Trump hasn't stopped boasting about the mandate since November Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #38

Yeah it's obnoxious ibegurpard Mar 2025 #8

You & me both brother. William769 Mar 2025 #10

We don't know, and won't probably ever know, who was right or wrong. Srkdqltr Mar 2025 #12

A crap choice either way... druidity33 Mar 2025 #14

You're ignoring the major done to the Democratic Party... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #51

And bringing bills to the floor that dems had no hand in writing. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #104

Shutting it down would have had other consequences . . . . Tansy_Gold Mar 2025 #69

"Shutting it down would have had other consequences . . . . . that would have made (eventually) turning it back on Amaryllis Mar 2025 #86

Well, for one thing Tansy_Gold Mar 2025 #96

That was what sealed it for me too - where is the off-ramp? ANd who turns it back on? and do they have any incentive to Amaryllis Mar 2025 #84

Sorry, no, that's my point angrychair Mar 2025 #15

Very flawed logic. The overwhelming majority is not always right. Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #31

I gotta tell you DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #46

Um, they did challenge the 2000 election and the Supreme Court ruled against them Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #59

Um - and the 2024 election. n/t yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #67

That is a logical fallacy angrychair Mar 2025 #48

It just means every rule has its outliers. Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #58

How is it not democracy ? MichMan Mar 2025 #79

Agreeing with totalitarian dic-fucking-tators is the WRONG FUCKING CHOICE Alpeduez21 Mar 2025 #39

If they shut it down, they don't have to start it up again!!! Than we will be in deeper shit than now. Srkdqltr Mar 2025 #43

You really think even their own magats would let them keep it shut down? Think. Again. Mar 2025 #53

Did you think their own would let them do what they are doing now? Of course they would cheer it. Srkdqltr Mar 2025 #57

I think it might actually have been the turning point we need... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #64

Nah. Think again. nt. druidity33 Mar 2025 #72

Well, sooner or later the magats will start feeling the effects of trump.... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #73

There is no negotiating with Trump and the Republican party. None. hadEnuf Mar 2025 #108

Don't forget Bernie shanti Mar 2025 #16

True angrychair Mar 2025 #17

Yes. Apparently we are bad Democrats if we agree with the hundreds of Democrats Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #18

What's going on now and what will go on in the next six months Tribetime Mar 2025 #19

Uh oh... GiqueCee Mar 2025 #23

Yep. Insurers, like bookies, set the odds and take their vigorish. Marcuse Mar 2025 #30

They are 100% correct. Blue Full Moon Mar 2025 #20

Shutting down the government would have hurt Democrats. Emile Mar 2025 #21

I think it's complicated. Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #22

What's complicated? angrychair Mar 2025 #26

Please, I didn't say anyone was wrong. Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #56

I apologize if that came across as rude angrychair Mar 2025 #68

I hear you. Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #77

Perplexing orangecrush Mar 2025 #24

This post by lapucelle helped me see it from a different perspective: liberalla Mar 2025 #25

I appreciate the sentiment angrychair Mar 2025 #28

Same here. WHat changed my opinion was when I learned that a shutdown could be permanent. And they would Amaryllis Mar 2025 #54

I certainly think it's more nuanced politically than that. MontanaFarmer Mar 2025 #27

That seems unlikely angrychair Mar 2025 #32

11 people ibegurpard Mar 2025 #33

No they were wrong mountain grammy Mar 2025 #29

I agree angrychair Mar 2025 #40

Senators and Representatives are elected to do the will of the voters 3825-87867 Mar 2025 #34

If that were true we would have never had the Civil Right Act pass Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #41

I doubt a majority of residents in their states wanted the government to be shut down. MichMan Mar 2025 #81

No. 10 took the bullets so the others can stand on principle. I get it. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #35

Sorry to brust that bubble angrychair Mar 2025 #42

It's not a "bubble." Dial back the condescension a touch. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #47

We blew our chances angrychair Mar 2025 #50

Yes, according to the K-street beltway creatures that control things Bluetus Mar 2025 #44

Screw Fetterman and the others...he dresses like he's poor Tribetime Mar 2025 #55

There is indeed a third option. Morbius Mar 2025 #61

I think it's more like... LudwigPastorius Mar 2025 #62

The defense of the 10 remind me of Garland. Emile Mar 2025 #63

Faulty reasoning using the logical fallacy of appeal to majority EdmondDantes_ Mar 2025 #65

Not about the majority angrychair Mar 2025 #71

Weird that you say it's not about the majority since that's the entire argument EdmondDantes_ Mar 2025 #75

As far as he is concerned, these 10 democrats and every fucking republican were right Autumn Mar 2025 #70

Does the majority of US citizens want the government to be shut down for a long extended period of time? Martin Eden Mar 2025 #76

It was all theater! They were all in on it AkFemDem Mar 2025 #78

So the 10 were right and tramp and the republicans would do nothing to harm America even though 3825-87867 Mar 2025 #80

Those 10 were the adults who stopped a tragic shutdown tritsofme Mar 2025 #82

Those 10 voted with the Republican majority. Emile Mar 2025 #85

They did the right thing, and denied Musk the shutdown he desperately wanted. tritsofme Mar 2025 #87

Trump and Musk think they did the right thing too. Emile Mar 2025 #88

They wanted a shutdown "caused" by Democrats to muddy the waters tritsofme Mar 2025 #89

Trump praised Schumer Emile Mar 2025 #90

A good indication that Trump is lying is that his lips are moving. tritsofme Mar 2025 #91

Is Schumer dotting the I and crossing the t? Emile Mar 2025 #92

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, but sure. tritsofme Mar 2025 #94

LOL Emile Mar 2025 #95

"History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians. Ping Tung Mar 2025 #83

Maybe it is a situation both a little bit right, both a little bit wrong. I seem to read valid and strong LizBeth Mar 2025 #93

The only ones in the wrong are Trump and his MAGAt cult. aeromanKC Mar 2025 #99

Right now, instead of doing his job angrychair Mar 2025 #100