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DENVERPOPS

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46. I gotta tell you

Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:19 PM

Mar 2025

if the Dems had had the balls to challenge the 2000 election, we wouldn't have ever been in that mess...............The same could have been said for challenging the 1980 election, the 2004 election and most certainly the 2016 election............

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So only these 10 people were right? [View all] angrychair Mar 2025 OP

No, they were extremely wrong. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #1

Sorry that's a little ambiguous angrychair Mar 2025 #3

Sorry, it was a reply to the question asked in the title. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #11

Could the 10 be considered the "conservative wing" of the Democratic Party? LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #36

No Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #37

Thank you. I do not have the patience to look through their voting records. LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #74

Just for the record, King is not a Democrat Bluetus Mar 2025 #45

Sound like a wing we don't need... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #49

While mr715 Mar 2025 #60

We really don't have the time for that... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #66

Yes, I agree PatSeg Mar 2025 #98

I vote for Chris Murphy. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #103

Yes, Chris Murphy would be an excellent choice PatSeg Mar 2025 #105

They could be the 10 who speed up the end of democracy RiverStone Mar 2025 #97

Baffles me too claudette Mar 2025 #2

Good question! This was s horrible precedent. Whyisthisstillclose Mar 2025 #4

What's yourpoint? Right or wrong about what? brush Mar 2025 #5

I made it clear angrychair Mar 2025 #9

"...about just forcing a shutdown..." is what wasn't clear in your OP. brush Mar 2025 #13

Did Schumer orchestrate the ten KT2000 Mar 2025 #6

That is a good question Bluetus Mar 2025 #52

Durbin is in an EXTREMELY Safe seat. SuzannaD Mar 2025 #101

Good For You ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #106

Absolutely. But it is absolutely insulting for this safe seat guy Bluetus Mar 2025 #107

That was my thought... pattyloutwo Mar 2025 #102

Trump and little Mikey Johnson thinks so. Trump Emile Mar 2025 #7

Trump hasn't stopped boasting about the mandate since November Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #38

Yeah it's obnoxious ibegurpard Mar 2025 #8

You & me both brother. William769 Mar 2025 #10

We don't know, and won't probably ever know, who was right or wrong. Srkdqltr Mar 2025 #12

A crap choice either way... druidity33 Mar 2025 #14

You're ignoring the major done to the Democratic Party... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #51

And bringing bills to the floor that dems had no hand in writing. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #104

Shutting it down would have had other consequences . . . . Tansy_Gold Mar 2025 #69

"Shutting it down would have had other consequences . . . . . that would have made (eventually) turning it back on Amaryllis Mar 2025 #86

Well, for one thing Tansy_Gold Mar 2025 #96

That was what sealed it for me too - where is the off-ramp? ANd who turns it back on? and do they have any incentive to Amaryllis Mar 2025 #84

Sorry, no, that's my point angrychair Mar 2025 #15

Very flawed logic. The overwhelming majority is not always right. Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #31

I gotta tell you DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #46

Um, they did challenge the 2000 election and the Supreme Court ruled against them Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #59

Um - and the 2024 election. n/t yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #67

That is a logical fallacy angrychair Mar 2025 #48

It just means every rule has its outliers. Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #58

How is it not democracy ? MichMan Mar 2025 #79

Agreeing with totalitarian dic-fucking-tators is the WRONG FUCKING CHOICE Alpeduez21 Mar 2025 #39

If they shut it down, they don't have to start it up again!!! Than we will be in deeper shit than now. Srkdqltr Mar 2025 #43

You really think even their own magats would let them keep it shut down? Think. Again. Mar 2025 #53

Did you think their own would let them do what they are doing now? Of course they would cheer it. Srkdqltr Mar 2025 #57

I think it might actually have been the turning point we need... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #64

Nah. Think again. nt. druidity33 Mar 2025 #72

Well, sooner or later the magats will start feeling the effects of trump.... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #73

There is no negotiating with Trump and the Republican party. None. hadEnuf Mar 2025 #108

Don't forget Bernie shanti Mar 2025 #16

True angrychair Mar 2025 #17

Yes. Apparently we are bad Democrats if we agree with the hundreds of Democrats Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #18

What's going on now and what will go on in the next six months Tribetime Mar 2025 #19

Uh oh... GiqueCee Mar 2025 #23

Yep. Insurers, like bookies, set the odds and take their vigorish. Marcuse Mar 2025 #30

They are 100% correct. Blue Full Moon Mar 2025 #20

Shutting down the government would have hurt Democrats. Emile Mar 2025 #21

I think it's complicated. Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #22

What's complicated? angrychair Mar 2025 #26

Please, I didn't say anyone was wrong. Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #56

I apologize if that came across as rude angrychair Mar 2025 #68

I hear you. Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #77

Perplexing orangecrush Mar 2025 #24

This post by lapucelle helped me see it from a different perspective: liberalla Mar 2025 #25

I appreciate the sentiment angrychair Mar 2025 #28

Same here. WHat changed my opinion was when I learned that a shutdown could be permanent. And they would Amaryllis Mar 2025 #54

I certainly think it's more nuanced politically than that. MontanaFarmer Mar 2025 #27

That seems unlikely angrychair Mar 2025 #32

11 people ibegurpard Mar 2025 #33

No they were wrong mountain grammy Mar 2025 #29

I agree angrychair Mar 2025 #40

Senators and Representatives are elected to do the will of the voters 3825-87867 Mar 2025 #34

If that were true we would have never had the Civil Right Act pass Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #41

I doubt a majority of residents in their states wanted the government to be shut down. MichMan Mar 2025 #81

No. 10 took the bullets so the others can stand on principle. I get it. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #35

Sorry to brust that bubble angrychair Mar 2025 #42

It's not a "bubble." Dial back the condescension a touch. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #47

We blew our chances angrychair Mar 2025 #50

Yes, according to the K-street beltway creatures that control things Bluetus Mar 2025 #44

Screw Fetterman and the others...he dresses like he's poor Tribetime Mar 2025 #55

There is indeed a third option. Morbius Mar 2025 #61

I think it's more like... LudwigPastorius Mar 2025 #62

The defense of the 10 remind me of Garland. Emile Mar 2025 #63

Faulty reasoning using the logical fallacy of appeal to majority EdmondDantes_ Mar 2025 #65

Not about the majority angrychair Mar 2025 #71

Weird that you say it's not about the majority since that's the entire argument EdmondDantes_ Mar 2025 #75

As far as he is concerned, these 10 democrats and every fucking republican were right Autumn Mar 2025 #70

Does the majority of US citizens want the government to be shut down for a long extended period of time? Martin Eden Mar 2025 #76

It was all theater! They were all in on it AkFemDem Mar 2025 #78

So the 10 were right and tramp and the republicans would do nothing to harm America even though 3825-87867 Mar 2025 #80

Those 10 were the adults who stopped a tragic shutdown tritsofme Mar 2025 #82

Those 10 voted with the Republican majority. Emile Mar 2025 #85

They did the right thing, and denied Musk the shutdown he desperately wanted. tritsofme Mar 2025 #87

Trump and Musk think they did the right thing too. Emile Mar 2025 #88

They wanted a shutdown "caused" by Democrats to muddy the waters tritsofme Mar 2025 #89

Trump praised Schumer Emile Mar 2025 #90

A good indication that Trump is lying is that his lips are moving. tritsofme Mar 2025 #91

Is Schumer dotting the I and crossing the t? Emile Mar 2025 #92

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, but sure. tritsofme Mar 2025 #94

LOL Emile Mar 2025 #95

"History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians. Ping Tung Mar 2025 #83

Maybe it is a situation both a little bit right, both a little bit wrong. I seem to read valid and strong LizBeth Mar 2025 #93

The only ones in the wrong are Trump and his MAGAt cult. aeromanKC Mar 2025 #99

Right now, instead of doing his job angrychair Mar 2025 #100