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In reply to the discussion: Ralph Nader - "Stay Silent and Stay Powerless Against Trump's Tyranny" [View all]JohnSJ
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Ralph Nader - "Stay Silent and Stay Powerless Against Trump's Tyranny" [View all]
sarchasm
Mar 2025
OP
Can you point me to the link where Nader begs forgiveness for getting Dubya elected?
gulliver
Mar 2025
#1
Sorry, he sure did, with his constant "there is no difference between the two parties". He is an arrogant,
JohnSJ
Mar 2025
#8
Raskin, Schiff, AOC, Sanders, etc. have said the same thing. Nader lost any credibility he ever had in 2000, and why
JohnSJ
Mar 2025
#22
Yes, I recall vote differences of 6-600 (depending on where in the count) and Nader pulled more than enough
MadameButterfly
Mar 2025
#213
There are a number of reasons that each by themselves cost Gore the election
Stargleamer
Mar 2025
#181
And we have a right not to have someone not like George Bush as president and Alito et al as SC justices
Stargleamer
Mar 2025
#205
Gore couldn't even carry his own state but keep telling yourself a third party candidate was the problem.
CrispyQ
Mar 2025
#220
I didn't vote for her, but I did hear her say things few mention much any more.
Kid Berwyn
Mar 2025
#71
And I have the right to be upset that Nader's actions put Bush in office
Wifes husband
Mar 2025
#206
But Nader didn't. It was the Rehnquist, Scalia, Thomas, O'Connor and Souter ruling to stop the recount.
Kid Berwyn
Mar 2025
#235
If Nader hasn't been on that ballot, SCOTUS would never have needed to get involved.
ShazzieB
Mar 2025
#254
Having the right to do something doesn't necessarily mean it's the right thing to do.
ShazzieB
Mar 2025
#253
As soon as I saw Ralph's name in the post title, I knew this was going to be a Nader hate fest.
CrispyQ
Mar 2025
#175
Nader gave W. Bush, the Iraq War, Citizens United and the gutting of the voting rights act
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 2025
#129
This is a guy who truly gets the consequences of his vote in 2000. He voted in the margins where Nader & Stein work...
Hekate
Mar 2025
#156
I don't think it excellent. Nader has been not supportive of human rights of women.
delisen
Mar 2025
#49
Apologists for Nader *do not care* that Rove gave him money. Just as they don't care that Jill Stein...
Hekate
Mar 2025
#159
Repug leadership council paid $5 million for Nader's tv ad campaign
ClimateChangeisReal
Aug 2025
#272
I went to Florida in 2004 as part of the Kerry Edwards voter protection team
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 2025
#227
Nader is still an asshole who refuses to admit he elected Bush or that Stein elected TFG
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 2025
#144
Sorry, but nader helped provide the path to the loss of the SC and the eventual accession of trump into the WH, with his
JohnSJ
Mar 2025
#5
That was the supreme court. He had every right to run for president . The SC did not have the right
Autumn
Mar 2025
#11
Doesn't cut it. He knew he was a spoiler and he knew what the stakes, and in 2016 he did the same false equivalency.
JohnSJ
Mar 2025
#135
None of that matters. Anyone can run for President aslong as they meet the requirements
Autumn
Mar 2025
#185
I disagree. the SC stepped in, gave the presidency to Bush. When all the votes were finally counted,
Autumn
Mar 2025
#200
When the votes were counted AL Gore had won the election, but Bush had been installed.
Autumn
Aug 2025
#316
Yup. He knew he was a spoiler, and he knew the SC was at stake, and in 2016 he sealed the deal for his fans by saying
JohnSJ
Mar 2025
#137
I loathe Ralph Nader. I wish he'd disappear from the face of the earth; but he's not wrong.
jrthin
Mar 2025
#6
I like Ralph Nader even with his shortcomings. I'm glad he's still on the face of the earth. And I agree he's not wrong.
PSPS
Mar 2025
#18
Hey everybody, a Ralph Nader thread, everyone dog pile on Ralph. Even if this essay make sense.
Hotler
Mar 2025
#9
Is the essay wrong or, you just don't like who penned it. Just pretend Hillary wrote it. nt
Hotler
Mar 2025
#20
There are plenty of people who have credibility and say the same thing, including Raskin, Schiff, AOC, etc. nader lost
JohnSJ
Mar 2025
#15
Exactly. Nader is not wrong in what he is saying. We have all been complaining about the need for more protests.
Lonestarblue
Mar 2025
#17
And don't anybody ever blame Texas for purging over 200,000 African American voters that cycle in Fl.
GreenWave
Mar 2025
#73
Thanks, Ralph. Now is not the time for Politicss as usual and empty compromise with the fascists.
Ping Tung
Mar 2025
#24
Geez. Now we are going to put this jackass on a pedestal because he says something obvious. His actions in 2000 will
JohnSJ
Mar 2025
#25
Ralph Nader: "The election is between the fascism of Trump and the autocracy of Harris"
JI7
Mar 2025
#40
This is the same as when Nader claimed that three was no difference between W Bush and Al Gore
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 2025
#147
Ralph repeating what millions of people already know doesn't make his opinion wrong, just worthless.
sop
Mar 2025
#58
Two things: #1 - Gore didn't even win his home state of NC. Hard to pin that on Nader.
TheRickles
Mar 2025
#64
To DFW and Mahatma: Yes, you are correct. Gore's home state is Tennessee. My bad.
TheRickles
Mar 2025
#102
Pretty big misrepresentation Tennessee was a deep red hell hole by the time Gore
standingtall
Mar 2025
#124
I didn't call you any of those things. I'm talking about certain progressive advocates on the far left.
ZRB
Mar 2025
#245
I support progressive policies. I dont like Nader for COMPLETELY unrelated reasons
ShazzieB
Mar 2025
#261
Maybe republicans aren't whinining about Ross Perot because they have the Supreme Court
standingtall
Mar 2025
#114
I agree with most of Nader's political views, but I would never support a 3rd party candidate in our two-party system.
sop
Mar 2025
#85
I don't know your neoghbor and in his life as an asshole he didn't have the propaganda...
NNadir
Mar 2025
#228
Nader ran on the platform that there was no difference between the Democratic Party and the GOP
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 2025
#136
In 2000, Nader claimed that there were no difference between W and Gore
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 2025
#141
Where was this jackass in 2000 and 2016? Another after the fact loser, stating the
JohnSJ
Mar 2025
#108
Genius who helped create problem once again offers "advice" to deal with problem.
Grokenstein
Mar 2025
#109
No one should pay any attention to anything that Nader says about anything
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 2025
#126
He should know, Where the F**K was he in 2016 when the stakes were even higher, and he still equated the Democratic
JohnSJ
Mar 2025
#146
Surprised to see you use Eric Zuesse as the main part of your reply. Zuesse wouldn't last 10 minutes on DU.
Celerity
Mar 2025
#201
😍 Oh, Ralph! (Swoon!) Our savior!🙏⛪️ Nader will rescue us and set us on the path of righteousness! 🙄
Oopsie Daisy
Mar 2025
#170
Fuck you Ralph. I remember 2000 when you told voters there wasn't a dime's difference between the 2 Parties.
OAITW r.2.0
Mar 2025
#203
this imbecile gave us george w bush and the start of the destruction of democracy
samsingh
Mar 2025
#209
If Democrats electoral fate is determined as much by Nader as y'all are ascribe to him, then we're in deep trouble.
sarchasm
Mar 2025
#229
Ralph Malf - "Stay Silent and Stay Powerless Against Trump's Tyranny" DOES THAT MAKE YOU READ THIS OBJECTIVELY?
usonian
Aug 2025
#308
Who? from the jackass who started there is no difference between both parties, his 15 minutes of fame is over.
lostincalifornia
Aug 2025
#326
Because of Nader, we have Citizens United, Shelby County (the gutting of the Voting Rights Act) and other bad rulings
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 2025
#327