Ralph Nader - "Stay Silent and Stay Powerless Against Trump's Tyranny"

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197. Define progressive

I consider myself a progressive. There will always be some dissatisfied. There will always be factions that say whoever isn't progressive enough as well as factions who claim whoever is too far left or too centrist, but we don't have to make it worse by suggested both sides are the same.


"Now according to some posters we are to believe that the Iraq war was Nader's fault. I guess we will have to ignore the 81 Democrats who voted for it in the House and the 29 Democrats who voted for it in the Senate."

That ignores the fact that if Nader hadn't cost Gore the election. There never would've been an Iraq war to begin with and therefore no vote on it and a pretty good chance there never would've been a 9/11 either.


"But in any case, what good does bashing Nader do now? It is useful for trashing out all of the progressives in the party, I guess. The same people who are most opposed to the progressives are also the most opposed to Nader. That is why I say that Nader/2000 is a red herring, it is a pretext for bashing progressives."

What good did Nader's thanks Hilary comment do shortly after Roe V Wade was overturned? Why because she ran for Presidency and loss, but won the poplar vote. So Nader's logic is Hilary run for President losses Roe V Wade gets overturned and it's her fault? Nader runs for President and had no chance of winning, but throws the election to Bush. Roe V Wade gets overturned by Judges appointed by Bush and Nader has no responsibility in what happened?