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Fire Walk With Me

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30. Knowing something was wrong with me, I studied psychology and abnormal psych
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:32 PM
Dec 2012

as well as lots of other things, some useful. I hope that everyone you mention does well and lives as full a life as is possible. I would also like to present the other side, so to speak, in that I've experienced some of it and the system is not perfect, is not omniscient, and makes mistakes which can cause harm. Sometimes there is good intent and that's a buffer, but most often there were people who just couldn't hear a patient as a human being, but only as some cookie-cutter amalgam of whatever is in the current literature, and God forbid you not fit. I was finally diagnosed with bipolarity NOS ("non-specific", meaning they don't know!) in addition to classic alcoholism. I'm sticking very close to the AA program as it does work the miracles it promises...but when I was in the ward, the near utter lack of understanding on the part of doctors and staff regarding classic addiction and the 12-Step solution as both stunning and horrible. Again, it was like talking to walls. Many times what I said was indeed the truth beyond what they saw about me and they did come around to it in most instances. Horrible. Awful. Unacceptable.

I'm lucky to be functional enough to be here having this discussion, and I'm grateful for that. But as others here have said, even given proper support and comfort/conditions, there is a hard limit to what we may have in this life. I dare never pass on this DNA through fathering children, for example. Would never adopt for the mere reason of the illnesses and also, because I live at half the level of the poverty cutoff and could not fund a family if I wished. My ability to really work has been taken from me. All I'm saying is that none of this is easy on this side, either. Especially now that the irate are marching in and are sometimes =not= interested in having any amount of this sort of conversation. I worry about absolutist characterization and further suffering for myself and others as a result. Things are bad enough and we have to be heard. Peace!

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I worry about it too. I've a fairly close family member who was recently diagnosed. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #1
I hope your family member is okay and has no problems or complications :( Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #2
There've been some occupational ramifications. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #7
I'm so sorry. At least he's on it early and may have some useful continuity. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #9
Glad to see someone else start this thread. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2012 #3
AIDS victims were marginalized in this manner as well. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #4
I know you're not suggesting it, but it has to be said ck4829 Dec 2012 #34
Virtually all of us are "mentally ill" in some way pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #5
Very true. nt Live and Learn Dec 2012 #6
Seeing how destructive and traumatizing this society can be, I'd have to agree. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #8
Something you'll appreciate, brother... pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #10
Our Veterans especially deserve far better than what they've gotten Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #11
The bigger imperative is for our women vets and the sexual abuse they've endured pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #12
Great post. Thank you for caring. Denninmi Dec 2012 #13
Fantastic post, fantastic attitude. Bravo. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #15
And.... you can *write*. Wowza! Powerful stuff. n/t Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #17
Thanks. Denninmi Dec 2012 #18
It's disheartening lbrtbell Dec 2012 #14
Violent mentally ill people pose a threat to themselves and to everyone else slackmaster Dec 2012 #16
Yes, thats true, but HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author slackmaster Dec 2012 #21
I'm very sorry for your experience and for their suffering. :( Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #24
Thanks. I think I'm better informed that most people. I do have a degree in psychology, and... slackmaster Dec 2012 #25
Knowing something was wrong with me, I studied psychology and abnormal psych Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #30
"Do what we say or else". :/ Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #22
Please read about a law we have here in California. I think it's a good one, but it's only been... slackmaster Dec 2012 #23
A tragedy, yet it is another extreme example when the majority are not Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #26
Point taken. You had a horrible experience. Thanks for helping to enlighten me. slackmaster Dec 2012 #28
I do not wish to diminish your own horrible experiences or education and involvement. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #33
Thanks again. I did have someone committed once, and the good that resulted was very limited. slackmaster Dec 2012 #35
Of course we will. It's already happening. "Mental illness is the problem. Using drugs GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #20
... Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #27
*hugs back* GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #32
Very well said. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #29
Thank you. In the ward in which I had the misfortune to end up, it was entirely drugs drugs drugs. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #31
Thank you for a HappyMe Dec 2012 #36
Saw a comment on Twitter that the NRA are calling for a registry etc. of the "mentally ill". Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #37
It's true. Updated the OP. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #38
The NRA are a massive social and political lobby intent upon expanding markets and sales Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #39
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