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In reply to the discussion: Heads up - Social Security - WHILE FIRING THOUSANDS AND SHUTTERING OFFICES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ... [View all]CousinIT
(12,512 posts)30. RELATED: Smears, Sadism and Social Security-Why Elon Musk wants to make seniors suffer (Krugman)
https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/smears-sadism-and-social-security
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Musks big blooper was his claim that millions of dead people are receiving Social Security checks. This claim probably reflected the failure of young Musk staffers what Dudek called the DOGE kids to understand how the SSAs databases work, combined with a complete lack of common sense. I mean, if there really were huge numbers of dead people receiving Social Security payments, dont you think someone else would have noticed?
In a normal political environment, getting something that big that wrong would have destroyed Musks credibility and led to his permanent exile from any role in setting policy. But this is America in 2025, so Trump amplified the already-refuted claim when addressing Congress, and Musk seems more powerful than ever.
Furthermore, Musk refuses to give up his Social Security smears, making the completely implausible claim that fraudulent use of Social Security numbers accounts for 10 percent of federal spending. And Id argue that that the plan to effectively cut off many disabled Americans is best seen as part of a desperate effort to find or pretend to find Social Security fraud, retroactively justifying Musks big mistake.
Still, does the plan have to be this cruel to the most vulnerable Americans? As I see it, the cruelty is a feature, not a bug.
After all, gratuitous, seemingly gleeful cruelty has been a hallmark of DOGEs operations. Even if you think DOGEs mass layoffs some quickly reversed when it turned out that critical workers were fired make sense, think of the way they are being carried out. In general, workers are being fired with no warning, no chance to make plans for the future, and often face insulting (and false) claims that they were poor performers.
It's hard to escape the sense that DOGE staffers are actually enjoying this. And why not? Were mostly talking about poorly socialized young men suddenly given the power to ruin other peoples lives, taking their cues from a leader who has declared that the fundamental weakness of Western society is empathy. So why should we be surprised that the DOGE kids rampage through the government looks more and more like a remake of Lord of the Flies?
Musks big blooper was his claim that millions of dead people are receiving Social Security checks. This claim probably reflected the failure of young Musk staffers what Dudek called the DOGE kids to understand how the SSAs databases work, combined with a complete lack of common sense. I mean, if there really were huge numbers of dead people receiving Social Security payments, dont you think someone else would have noticed?
In a normal political environment, getting something that big that wrong would have destroyed Musks credibility and led to his permanent exile from any role in setting policy. But this is America in 2025, so Trump amplified the already-refuted claim when addressing Congress, and Musk seems more powerful than ever.
Furthermore, Musk refuses to give up his Social Security smears, making the completely implausible claim that fraudulent use of Social Security numbers accounts for 10 percent of federal spending. And Id argue that that the plan to effectively cut off many disabled Americans is best seen as part of a desperate effort to find or pretend to find Social Security fraud, retroactively justifying Musks big mistake.
Still, does the plan have to be this cruel to the most vulnerable Americans? As I see it, the cruelty is a feature, not a bug.
After all, gratuitous, seemingly gleeful cruelty has been a hallmark of DOGEs operations. Even if you think DOGEs mass layoffs some quickly reversed when it turned out that critical workers were fired make sense, think of the way they are being carried out. In general, workers are being fired with no warning, no chance to make plans for the future, and often face insulting (and false) claims that they were poor performers.
It's hard to escape the sense that DOGE staffers are actually enjoying this. And why not? Were mostly talking about poorly socialized young men suddenly given the power to ruin other peoples lives, taking their cues from a leader who has declared that the fundamental weakness of Western society is empathy. So why should we be surprised that the DOGE kids rampage through the government looks more and more like a remake of Lord of the Flies?
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Heads up - Social Security - WHILE FIRING THOUSANDS AND SHUTTERING OFFICES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ... [View all]
CousinIT
Mar 2025
OP
Question: My SS deposit goes to credit union "A" with which I verified my identity in person. If I want
allegorical oracle
Mar 2025
#27
I tried to change my address with the Social Security Administration and I couldn't do it online.
SunSeeker
Mar 2025
#6
SunSeeker - was this recently or a while ago? Supposedly this change doesn't take effect until March 31. Nt
CousinIT
Mar 2025
#8
I tried to do it online on 11/27/24. I called that same day and they gave me an appointment for 1/16/25.
SunSeeker
Mar 2025
#13
It says it can be done online if one has a login.gov or id.me account. Those who do not
CousinIT
Mar 2025
#11
IMO, believe we ought to make their Repug lives miserable -- call them over every petty
allegorical oracle
Mar 2025
#28
It's going to kill people around here. Our local SS office closed many years ago.
mucholderthandirt
Mar 2025
#25
Yes, we were told there was a secure computer system, it would save everybody.
mucholderthandirt
Mar 2025
#26