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In reply to the discussion: Here's a gun safety idea that would have stopped the Sandy Hook killer dead in his tracks [View all]AlexSatan
(535 posts)I merely pointed out that your claim was wrong.
As for the Constitution, the SCOTUS disagrees with you as does 2/3 of Americans.
And history does not support your claim. The PA Constitution of 1776 said
"the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state"
Alexander Hamilton spoke of arms in the hands of the citizen (not the standing army) to protect their liberties.
Noah Webster:Before a standing army can rule the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.
George Mason: "to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them . . . by totally disusing and neglecting the militia."
Madison :"The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence."
Note the math: assuming 100th equals 25,000 men. Assumes the population numbers 2.5 million and the number able to bear arms is 625 ,000. On the other hand the militia numbers half a million. This means 80% of the men able to bear arms would be in the militia. And where would they get their guns? We know from the Second Militia Act of 1792 that the militia members had to supply their own.
So it is pretty clear the intent was for those able to bear arms, to have their guns already.