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randome

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23. Let me get this straight.

Reply to whatchamacallit (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:20 PM

Dec 2012

The 'gamers' blame the guns.
The gun nuts blame the 'gamers'.
The mental health officials blame both guns and 'gamers'.
The schools blame the parents and the parents blame the schools.

Result: no one needs to change their lives in the slightest because no one is entirely to blame.

The correct answer is: all these things have an affect on unstable personalities. Isn't it time we did SOMETHING to lessen the chances of unstable personalities going on killing sprees?

I've seen some hard-core NRA types here on DU say that enough is enough. When is someone going to step up from one of the other factions and say, not that they are to blame for mass killings, but to admit that they can do their part to make those killings less frequent?

It takes a village, people! Step up!

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*Scapegoating video games and other violent media is nonsense* [View all] whatchamacallit Dec 2012 OP

I agree completely xoom Dec 2012 #1

+1 n/t. okieinpain Dec 2012 #2

That's the addiction talking. frazzled Dec 2012 #3

Please tell me this is sarcasm. white_wolf Dec 2012 #9

That's the damned truth. lbrtbell Dec 2012 #10

I don't believe you can conclusively exclude anything. If guns make you roguevalley Dec 2012 #60

Violence sells. GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #4

It does whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #6

Actually, it's corporations using sophisticated marketing techniques making those video games... KittyWampus Dec 2012 #15

Uh huh... whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #29

Well, they don't help. Eddie Haskell Dec 2012 #5

I don't disagree whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #7

But ALL countries play the same violent video games, and yet their kill rate lob1 Dec 2012 #56

Most people don't imitate what they see or play Superbot Dec 2012 #8

Most gun owners don't kill people .... oldhippie Dec 2012 #51

You are free to believe what you want. Or you can choose to believe in science. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #11

Correlation does not imply causation Fumesucker Dec 2012 #14

There's a difference between accepted science and studies whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #19

I think that was, in fact, his point. theKed Dec 2012 #61

If that were true, the rate of violent crime would be up. jeff47 Dec 2012 #21

Mass killings have been up since the advent of violent computer games (the last 2 decades). Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #27

If your theory was correct, non-mass killings would also be up. jeff47 Dec 2012 #39

If you believe so strongly in correlative evidence, then tell me what this means Major Nikon Dec 2012 #38

A-fucking-men. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #12

Moral panics? So is concern over Rape Culture also "moral panic"? KittyWampus Dec 2012 #17

It's called a Culture of Violence. You either support it our you don't. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #13

The anti-video game people subconsciously think people are stupid... Odin2005 Dec 2012 #16

I love video games. Who is "anti-video games"? And people who buy into violent crap are tools of the KittyWampus Dec 2012 #18

You mean like the two person shop nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #28

Thank you, I did enjoy Max Payne 3. Terry_M Dec 2012 #45

Who is anti-video? Let's have some names. Did they send you e-mails? Or on TV? Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #32

Tipper Gore? Joe Lieberman? Odin2005 Dec 2012 #36

Few things are caused by ONE thing. It's probably a combination. Besides, you're confusing CAUSE Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #20

Media isn't the cause whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #24

That's a ridiculous and unwarranted assumption on your part. randome Dec 2012 #30

What do you think has a more profound effect on an unstable personality whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #31

This is not the time to apportion blame and see who comes out with more. randome Dec 2012 #33

Did someone establish that the kid was "violent game addicted" whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #37

You keep going back to the same nonsense. randome Dec 2012 #42

No, it wouldn't. I have a gun. I have never killed anyone or anything. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #35

"It" isn't video games and other violent media. 99Forever Dec 2012 #22

Let me get this straight. randome Dec 2012 #23

I think you said that really well. Ilsa Dec 2012 #26

We can very clearly show the link between guns and violence. jeff47 Dec 2012 #41

Really? There are plenty of hard-core gun enthusiasts who would argue with you about the gun link. randome Dec 2012 #43

I don't like violence whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #48

Again, I am NOT saying video games are to blame. randome Dec 2012 #54

The gun link is obvious - you can't go on a shooting spree without one. jeff47 Dec 2012 #53

Mass killings are up. randome Dec 2012 #55

Again, your claim requires all killings to go up, not just mass killings. jeff47 Dec 2012 #57

Yup, the debunking nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #25

"I don't believe any media - makes anybody - do anything." earthside Dec 2012 #34

Let me qualify: I don't believe any media - makes anybody - do anything crazy whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #40

I figure that someone has to be out of their mind to kill someone socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #44

Do you think that the shooter in Aurora was influenced? cynatnite Dec 2012 #46

Good move with your son whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #50

I agree. I play violent games every day JesterCS Dec 2012 #47

Until you do. nt oldhippie Dec 2012 #49

Never understood why parents buy violent video games for their underthematrix Dec 2012 #52

Only if you don't know what actually happens in those violent video games jeff47 Dec 2012 #59

Yep. As dumb as the asshole PMRC in the 80's. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #58