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meadowlander

(5,137 posts)
23. Some, but not all might choose to live there.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 02:47 AM
Mar 2025

Some people want to have a garden so they can grow some of their own food. Some people want a yard so they can have a larger dog or a safe place for the kids to play when they are crawling up the walls. Some peoples' work places aren't urban and they want to live closer to them. Some people don't want to listen to their neighbours thumping on the walls or shouting in the stairwells or listening to the TV or music cranked up too loud. During Covid there was a massive flight out of cities for people who realised they could work at home and didn't need to be cooped up in a tiny apartment in a city during a pandemic. My suburban house almost doubled in value between 2019-2023 because there was so much demand for places like it.

Owning a car may be a hassle but it's significantly less of a hassle than not owning one for many people. I was carless for decades but then had to give it up as I got older, busier, partially disabled, etc. I know lots of people with kids whose families couldn't function in the same way without a car. Lots of working women basically live out of their cars on weeknights making multi-stop trips all afternoon and evening shuttling people around.

It's expensive to live in large cities because land values are so high from numerous competing demands, not just housing. The areas that are best serviced by infrastructure and other amenities have the most different parties wanting to use it, commercial and industrial as well as residential, while the further and further out you go, the less competition there is. Convenience is the draw for expensive neighbourhoods, and things like desirable school districts, leafiness, historic character, etc. not necessarily just walkability. San Francisco and New York are so expensive because you're competing with so many people whose salaries are so high and who also want a short commute, not because they are necessarily that walkable or have great public transport.

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? No. MissB Mar 2025 #1
Of course not teslas, there is a world wide boycott on them right now. They are... off the menu Blues Heron Mar 2025 #2
And the boycott is working! Nixie Mar 2025 #13
I doubt they're any better for the environment as a whole LS0999 Mar 2025 #3
I think if you power your electric vehicle with solar or wind it's def. better for the climate overall AZJonnie Mar 2025 #10
I wont make your eyes gloss over with the math, but EV's do produce considerably less CO2 at the power plant than CentralMass Mar 2025 #12
Enriching Musk is good for the environment? How is the EPA doing under DOGE? The BLM? Solly Mack Mar 2025 #4
I'm keeping my 26 year old truck RainCaster Mar 2025 #5
People pretend that there is no cost to the electric PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2025 #6
Everyone should drive a stick? Should we also go back to 8-tracks and AM radio? tinrobot Mar 2025 #36
EVs aren't to save the planet. Ron Green Mar 2025 #7
Why was there a subsidy for buying one? MichMan Mar 2025 #8
No! hunter Mar 2025 #9
Unfortunately we dont live in a utopia where this is possible. CentralMass Mar 2025 #14
What sort of "freedom" is it to live in a nation where we are forced to own automobiles? hunter Mar 2025 #15
Virtually nobody is "forced" to buy an automobile. meadowlander Mar 2025 #18
In exactly the same way, many U.S. Americans can't imagine free or affordable universal health care. hunter Mar 2025 #22
Some, but not all might choose to live there. meadowlander Mar 2025 #23
My great grandparent's house in San Francisco has a large back yard garden. hunter Mar 2025 #25
I agree completely and will offer as proof that during my years in Architecture School (1975-1980) that is exactly.... MMBeilis Mar 2025 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Nixie Mar 2025 #11
Pretty sure Tesla isn't the only manufacturer of electric cars DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2025 #16
This has been addressed numerous times Rstrstx Mar 2025 #17
Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #19
Exactly. I deleted considering the follow-up thread gossiping Nixie Mar 2025 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2025 #24
No. Not teslas. There are plenty of alternatives. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #26
Should we be encouraging people to use more efficient products in their energy use? Absolutely! Gore1FL Mar 2025 #27
No. bucolic_frolic Mar 2025 #28
My motivation for an ev purchase Littlered Mar 2025 #29
I hate car culture. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #30
I own an EV. My use case is perfect for it. LexVegas Mar 2025 #31
yes, except Teslas DBoon Mar 2025 #32
More than anything, EVs are a necessary step in the natural evolution of power production, and they Ol Janx Spirit Mar 2025 #33
... Prairie Gates Mar 2025 #34
OP states question then disappears from the discussion AKwannabe Mar 2025 #35
If you absolutely have to buy a car, seriously consider an EV tinrobot Mar 2025 #37
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