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Ol Janx Spirit

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33. More than anything, EVs are a necessary step in the natural evolution of power production, and they
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 10:49 AM
Mar 2025

serve not only to expand our knowledge of storing energy for use in vehicles--but in the storage of energy for all sorts of uses. This technology will be the key to humans surviving off the planet if that is where civilization must go. And that eventual technology will not likely look anything like batteries of today--possibly hydrogen or other cells. We only get there by going through here. Virtually no one now even thinks about whale oil, but it dominated as a fuel for lighting in early America. Oil lamps are a fascinating subject in and of themselves and go back many millennia using oil from many sources over time. When you look at how humans actually behave, there is a lot of evidence to suggest that EV production hasn't been about saving the planet, but about providing it with a less-expensive and more reliable fuel source. When the Toyota Prius was developed in 1997 it wasn't really seen as a planet-saver but a way to buy a lot less gasoline that was constantly fluctuating in price. But that early Prius showed the world that electric motors actually had a lot of advantages over cars propelled directly by internal combustion engines even aside from the fuel savings. Human technology tends to move forward regardless of the impact on the planet--as we can painfully see now.

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? No. MissB Mar 2025 #1
Of course not teslas, there is a world wide boycott on them right now. They are... off the menu Blues Heron Mar 2025 #2
And the boycott is working! Nixie Mar 2025 #13
I doubt they're any better for the environment as a whole LS0999 Mar 2025 #3
I think if you power your electric vehicle with solar or wind it's def. better for the climate overall AZJonnie Mar 2025 #10
I wont make your eyes gloss over with the math, but EV's do produce considerably less CO2 at the power plant than CentralMass Mar 2025 #12
Enriching Musk is good for the environment? How is the EPA doing under DOGE? The BLM? Solly Mack Mar 2025 #4
I'm keeping my 26 year old truck RainCaster Mar 2025 #5
People pretend that there is no cost to the electric PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2025 #6
Everyone should drive a stick? Should we also go back to 8-tracks and AM radio? tinrobot Mar 2025 #36
EVs aren't to save the planet. Ron Green Mar 2025 #7
Why was there a subsidy for buying one? MichMan Mar 2025 #8
No! hunter Mar 2025 #9
Unfortunately we dont live in a utopia where this is possible. CentralMass Mar 2025 #14
What sort of "freedom" is it to live in a nation where we are forced to own automobiles? hunter Mar 2025 #15
Virtually nobody is "forced" to buy an automobile. meadowlander Mar 2025 #18
In exactly the same way, many U.S. Americans can't imagine free or affordable universal health care. hunter Mar 2025 #22
Some, but not all might choose to live there. meadowlander Mar 2025 #23
My great grandparent's house in San Francisco has a large back yard garden. hunter Mar 2025 #25
I agree completely and will offer as proof that during my years in Architecture School (1975-1980) that is exactly.... MMBeilis Mar 2025 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Nixie Mar 2025 #11
Pretty sure Tesla isn't the only manufacturer of electric cars DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2025 #16
This has been addressed numerous times Rstrstx Mar 2025 #17
Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #19
Exactly. I deleted considering the follow-up thread gossiping Nixie Mar 2025 #21
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No. Not teslas. There are plenty of alternatives. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #26
Should we be encouraging people to use more efficient products in their energy use? Absolutely! Gore1FL Mar 2025 #27
No. bucolic_frolic Mar 2025 #28
My motivation for an ev purchase Littlered Mar 2025 #29
I hate car culture. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #30
I own an EV. My use case is perfect for it. LexVegas Mar 2025 #31
yes, except Teslas DBoon Mar 2025 #32
More than anything, EVs are a necessary step in the natural evolution of power production, and they Ol Janx Spirit Mar 2025 #33
... Prairie Gates Mar 2025 #34
OP states question then disappears from the discussion AKwannabe Mar 2025 #35
If you absolutely have to buy a car, seriously consider an EV tinrobot Mar 2025 #37
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