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Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:10 PM Dec 2012

MoveOn Blasts Latest Fiscal Cliff Offer [View all]

MoveOn Blasts Latest Fiscal Cliff Offer

MoveOn, the progressive activist group, fired a strongly worded shot across President Obama's bow following reports that the White House had offered Republicans significant concessions on entitlements, in particular Social Security, in so-called fiscal cliff negotiations Monday night.

"MoveOn members overwhelmingly oppose cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits, and they've made clear that they would see any fiscal agreement that cuts such benefits as a betrayal that sells out working and middle class families -- whether the cuts come via a chained CPI, increased Medicare eligibility age, or in some other form," said MoveOn Executive Director Justin Ruben. "If such a deal were proposed by the President and Speaker, MoveOn members would expect every Senate and House Democrat to do everything in their power to block it. Senate Majority Leader Reid would play a crucial role, as MoveOn members would count on him and other senators to remain true to their repeated promises to keep Social Security benefits off the table."

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/moveon-blasts-latest-fiscal-cliff-offer

I'm holding out hope that this rumor is a result of Boehner using the complicit media to create the perception that he's negotiating.

Boehner made a ridiculous offer a couple of days ago (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=338282), and the President rejected it.

White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/16/us-usa-fiscal-republicans-idUSBRE8BE0AN20121216

Now, we're to believe the President made a counter offer based on a proposal he rejected, only to have Boehner reject the counter offer?

Obama 'cliff' offer is flawed but positive: Boehner aides
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/18/us-fiscal-offer-boehner-idUSBRE8BH04A20121218

And why the hell is Social Security even being discussed in deficit negotiations?



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and then he expects dems to turn out and vote for a Kerry replacement? Cobalt Violet Dec 2012 #1
This is what huffington is reporting still_one Dec 2012 #2
Oh, this is (NOT) reassuring DJ13 Dec 2012 #3
Maybe they are not incompetent at all. Maybe they are getting exactly what THEY want. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #9
yes. both parties want to cut social benefits, just as in europe and elsewhere. in fact, this HiPointDem Dec 2012 #10
To pretend at this point that we have anything resembling representative government is ridiculous. kath Dec 2012 #15
sure does. the whole public space is a big fat fucking joke. nothing but lies, manipulation, HiPointDem Dec 2012 #16
I agree. But approx 68% of the eligible voters in the last election either didnt vote or voted for rhett o rick Dec 2012 #22
kick Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #4
Good folding during the shitstorm distraction. TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #5
Right on schedule Doctor_J Dec 2012 #6
I'm Hoping Obama Is Bluffing rsmith6621 Dec 2012 #7
hello CitizenPatriot Dec 2012 #8
reported in the WAPO & by MoveOn, as well as other sources. reported as OBAMA'S Counter- HiPointDem Dec 2012 #11
It certainly does sound like 'Republican Proposal' so it better NOT be from sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #17
. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #23
Let me remind you of Chris Hedges' prescience after the election Doctor_J Dec 2012 #12
i thought they'd try christmas week while we were all eating ham. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #18
I prefer to wait and see Skittles Dec 2012 #13
I don't believe this. Really. I don't believe it. SS cuts - no. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #14
washington post, paul krugman, ezra klein, reuters, atlanta constitution, la times not reliable HiPointDem Dec 2012 #19
They are messing with the People's Pension Fund. They have no right to sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #20
I believe this is a cynical false flag operation. SS really is not on the table but "the people" Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #21
I think it's a definite possibility. woo me with science Dec 2012 #24
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