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John2

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35. There are 50

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:12 AM

Dec 2012

Democrats in the Senate. Obama can't do anything without them. Instead of complaining, you guys should be calling your grass roots organizations and lay the line down to those Democrats in the Senate about your positions. That is where the pressure needs to come from. Just let them know if they go along with this, they are through. I rather go off the Cliff then accept this crap!. And I gives a dam about their military expansionism. As long as I'm in the country, i'm safe enough and can defend it. Our Constitution doesn't say anything about nation building or supporting empires.

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A �fiscal cliff� deal is near: Here are the details by Ezra Klein [View all] sasha031 Dec 2012 OP

Shit. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #1

both sides are complicit in bullshit to me if they AGAIN, A-FUCKING-GAIN roguevalley Dec 2012 #38

I don't get it either, and I too am tired of all the BS. STOP ALREADY. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #45

cutting social security still seems kind of mean to me limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #2

No! President Obama, please listen to Robert Reich. You don't need to cave! Fridays Child Dec 2012 #3

It's not caving when you want it. Marr Dec 2012 #30

There you go. Monetarily, he places himself as a moderate Republican. TalkingDog Dec 2012 #36

Will this end up with us making more money than with going off the cliff, or not? rocktivity Dec 2012 #4

Fuck! The payroll tax break will expire. Cobalt Violet Dec 2012 #5

Please PM me if you are no longer able to care for your cat Esse Quam Videri Dec 2012 #26

... Fumesucker Dec 2012 #40

Will do. Cobalt Violet Dec 2012 #48

"many think they can see the agreement taking shape" gkhouston Dec 2012 #6

Obama is gonna fuck us over. jerseyjack Dec 2012 #7

chained CPT = 10% cuts over something like 5-10 years, and continuing cuts all down the line. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #8

Over the cliff with you, seniors! SOMEBODY has to cushion the wealthy, y'know. forestpath Dec 2012 #9

No, this better not be true! sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #10

Social Security I read on DU in another thread he will cut the bkkyosemite Dec 2012 #11

Each year I keep going in the hole more bkkyosemite Dec 2012 #12

sorry but it is an entitlement! wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #16

In that sense yes but not in the sense of the Republican way......... bkkyosemite Dec 2012 #34

I'm washing my hands of the so called "fiscal cliff" bluestateguy Dec 2012 #13

and still no significant punishment of the MASSIVE FRAUD of the bankster class. The money HiPointDem Dec 2012 #14

Accepting chained CPI is extremely unfair. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #15

SS is not part of the deficit sasha031 Dec 2012 #24

The reason they think it's acceptable sunnystarr Dec 2012 #28

NOT acceptable Skittles Dec 2012 #17

FUCK this shit - any cut to SS is utterly unacceptable. kath Dec 2012 #18

If Obama cuts Social Security or Medicar it won't matter iemitsu Dec 2012 #29

Anyone else just throw up in their mouth's a little after reading this? JaneyVee Dec 2012 #19

this has to be a bad joke; Obama and Dems have ALL THE POWERE. PLEASE, WHY? amborin Dec 2012 #20

The simplest explanation is that this is what they want n/t Fumesucker Dec 2012 #42

yep, that's probably it eom amborin Dec 2012 #50

Worst. Negotiator. Ever. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #52

I've had it RegieRocker Dec 2012 #21

Chained CPI worsens an already fraudulently rigged CPI calculation which grossly understates inflati Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #22

+1 HiPointDem Dec 2012 #23

SS recipients just had two years in a row of no COLA DJ13 Dec 2012 #32

Totally not acceptable! lob1 Dec 2012 #25

Speculative outrage is the best outrage...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #27

It's easy to carp when you don't have any skin in the game, Sid Fumesucker Dec 2012 #43

Would anyone care to make a wager that the percentage the rate goes on up on the wealthy... Marr Dec 2012 #31

NO! NO! NO! robinlynne Dec 2012 #33

There are 50 John2 Dec 2012 #35

I will be very upset if this is true, because of the Social Security. There is no reason for SS to Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #37

Alas we win, but we lose. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #39

elections have consequences... Mel Content Dec 2012 #41

Tsk. Tsk. Don't be silly. Obama will never accept cuts to SS, Medicare, or other social programs. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #44

I'll believe that when I see it. pangaia Dec 2012 #51

I believe chained CPI cuts present recipients madfloridian Dec 2012 #46

another kick HiPointDem Dec 2012 #47

Did anyone really expect a deal without some cuts? DCBob Dec 2012 #49

NOT acceptable! Owl Dec 2012 #53