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Mr. Sparkle

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Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:03 AM Mar 2025

If Pete Hegseth Had Any Honor, He Would Resign. NY Times [View all]

I don’t know how Pete Hegseth can look service members in the eye. He’s just blown his credibility as a military leader. On Monday, The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg published one of the most extraordinary stories I’ve ever read. President Trump’s national security adviser, Michael Waltz, apparently inadvertently invited Goldberg to join a Signal group chat (Signal is an encrypted messaging app) that seemed to include several senior Trump officials, including Stephen Miller, JD Vance, Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth.

A National Security Council spokesman told The Atlantic that the chat “appears to be authentic.” No one apparently noticed Goldberg’s presence, and he had a front-row seat as they debated Trump’s decision to attack the Houthi rebels, an Iran-backed militia that had been firing on civilian shipping in the Red Sea. Then, at 11:44 a.m. on March 15, the account labeled “Pete Hegseth” sent a message that contained “operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying and attack sequencing.”

This would be a stunning breach of security. I’m a former Army JAG officer (an Army lawyer). I’ve helped investigate numerous allegations of classified information spillages, and I’ve never even heard of anything this egregious — a secretary of defense intentionally using a civilian messaging app to share sensitive war plans without even apparently noticing a journalist was in the chat. There is not an officer alive whose career would survive a security breach like that. It would normally result in instant consequences (relief from command, for example) followed by a comprehensive investigation and, potentially, criminal charges.

Federal law makes it a crime when a person — through gross negligence — removes information “relating to the national defense” from “its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted or destroyed.”

more... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/24/opinion/atlantic-hegseth-vance-houthis.html
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The Universe Has Boundaries -- Stupidity Knows No Bounds MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #1
And fat. And wants to wear really orange makeup. Ray Bruns Mar 2025 #10
They all committed serious federal crimes. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #2
He raped a women Henry203 Mar 2025 #3
Should never use "honor" & that POS hegseth in the same sentence. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2025 #4
He was asleep at the wheel. Incompetent administration. Emile Mar 2025 #5
More likely drunk and passed out. Ray Bruns Mar 2025 #9
HONOR? We don't need no stinking HONOR! ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2025 #6
Of course this is the Trump administration. Honor, like that's so yesterday! n/t Vogon_Glory Mar 2025 #7
Too little, too late, NY Times. As usual. (nt) Paladin Mar 2025 #8
If the NY Times had any honor they wouldn't have normalized the Felon in the White House. NNadir Mar 2025 #11
As has all the rest of the media. Gimpyknee Mar 2025 #15
Lock her up with Mike Flynn Botany Mar 2025 #12
Oh, that guy lonely bird Mar 2025 #16
And he gave up Crimea to Russia in 2013 Botany Mar 2025 #26
A possible Russian asset? lonely bird Mar 2025 #28
Russia got their hooks into Flynn in 2012 or '13 Botany Mar 2025 #34
That is for damn sure lonely bird Mar 2025 #35
Honor? blubunyip Mar 2025 #13
They all should lose their jobs over this and at the very least, Hegseth should go to jail. Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #14
Kick dalton99a Mar 2025 #17
If Pete Hegseth had any honor, he wouldn't have become the Pete Hegseth we know. highplainsdem Mar 2025 #18
No kidding! SheltieLover Mar 2025 #20
No worries. He's a rethug so zero honor is a requirement SheltieLover Mar 2025 #19
If there were any honor left in this country ... Hope22 Mar 2025 #21
If TSF has any honor, he will fire them all RainCaster Mar 2025 #22
I forgot what honor feels like In It to Win It Mar 2025 #23
Well, we know that the orange man would NEVER Bettie Mar 2025 #24
The Trump regime is absolutely corrupt and none of his appointees have a shred of honor Mysterian Mar 2025 #25
shithole musk republicans have no honor and they are not patriotic............... Lovie777 Mar 2025 #27
If Pete Hegseth had any honor, he would not have accepted the job in the first place. LoisB Mar 2025 #29
G.O.P.ers like Heg's Seth don't do honor BoRaGard Mar 2025 #30
If the drunkard had any honour, he would not be the scumbag that he is. niyad Mar 2025 #31
Everyone on that text EXCEPT the reporter should resign. AllyCat Mar 2025 #32
He has no shame. Woodwizard Mar 2025 #33
Drunk rapist Nazi has zero honor-which is why he was chosen -his similarity to tsf - only prettier! lark Mar 2025 #36
Such an obviously dishonorable, despicable Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #38
Hegseth needs to go LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #37
LOL Meowmee Mar 2025 #39
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