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Mike 03

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44. I'm reserving judgment on this one. Firstly, many people don't know

Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:42 PM

Mar 2025

that CPR no longer requires mouth-to-mouth contact. Secondly, seeing a person with no traumatic injuries this young has died, one immediately suspects opiates (i.e., Fentanyl) and even microscopic amounts of that can kill you. Even hand contact with a corpse might be dangerous.

And this person had just been fired or resigned in disgust, so I would think of suicide (or death of despair--ie drugs). All the more reason, if you don't have gloves or know the new updated CPR procedure, to hesitate to perform it.

So I want to know the reasons before I judge this person's inaction.

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Person who called 911 for deceased former US attorney Jessica Aber 'refused' to perform CPR [View all] orangecrush Mar 2025 OP

She was only 43, as noted farther down in linked article EYESORE 9001 Mar 2025 #1

Young people die from unknown heart conditions sadly all the time underpants Mar 2025 #18

It's still not that common, statistically EYESORE 9001 Mar 2025 #19

Agree. It's fairly rare and should investigated. COULD be nothing, of course, but acting like still-prayin4rain Mar 2025 #52

Did you see the list of people she prosecuted? gab13by13 Mar 2025 #31

I had a near fatal heart attack Mossfern Mar 2025 #32

Glad you made it. underpants Mar 2025 #41

A friend of mine died from a heart attack - for 13 minutes Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #53

Too sad. Passages Mar 2025 #2

itself a sad statement on our education system rampartd Mar 2025 #6

Legal system too. Some people fear legal consequences even if person lives, but with injuries, etc. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #27

That was my take too canetoad Mar 2025 #66

This has nothing to do with schools or "educational system." valleyrogue Mar 2025 #39

There's CPR that doesn't require giving rescue breathes EdmondDantes_ Mar 2025 #48

Pretty sure 911 woukd've walked them through the process over the phone SheltieLover Mar 2025 #10

Good point! Passages Mar 2025 #11

Thx SheltieLover Mar 2025 #12

Refused or unable exboyfil Mar 2025 #3

Do you know "Stayin' Alive"? TommyT139 Mar 2025 #17

It also works with EYESORE 9001 Mar 2025 #20

There are many reasons I can think of why someone wouldn't do it. Renew Deal Mar 2025 #62

I mean....if someone's dead, CPR isn't going to help. Lay people can certianly make that observation. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2025 #4

Yes, and no. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #61

If she had a medical condition as reported, the caller may have been following her wishes ms liberty Mar 2025 #5

that's right eShirl Mar 2025 #7

No new news pbrmn Mar 2025 #8

Do you have some new information that should be reported? onenote Mar 2025 #38

This is a misunderstanding of what the 911 operator said. yardwork Mar 2025 #9

Could be there were visible signs of trauma nobody could survive? SheltieLover Mar 2025 #13

Or perhaps the body was cold. If she was obviously dead and had been for some time, what's the point? Midnight Writer Mar 2025 #14

Also possibility. SheltieLover Mar 2025 #15

During my EMT training EYESORE 9001 Mar 2025 #21

Likely true, legally, but if someone has a hole in their chest a semi SheltieLover Mar 2025 #22

Yeah, I'd have to take a pass on that myself EYESORE 9001 Mar 2025 #24

It's just weird if they truly believe she died of natural causes, SheltieLover Mar 2025 #25

Poison was my first thought upon reading the headline EYESORE 9001 Mar 2025 #26

I hope so, too, byt if ruskies were involved, SheltieLover Mar 2025 #28

As an RN I've declared LOTS of people dead. nt Maru Kitteh Mar 2025 #50

I do it all the time... littlemissmartypants Mar 2025 #64

Who made the 911 call???? Blue_Roses Mar 2025 #16

In many places, as a matter of law, the identity of 911 callers is protected as a privacy matter onenote Mar 2025 #37

Makes sense Blue_Roses Mar 2025 #56

Maybe finding a corpse would be traumatic... radicalleft Mar 2025 #23

No thank you. That's what 911 is for. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 2025 #29

Immunocompromised? Tim S Mar 2025 #30

Not everybody can perform CPR. valleyrogue Mar 2025 #40

I found my husband dead. Ilsa Mar 2025 #33

How sad that must have been. 3catwoman3 Mar 2025 #35

2 years. Still hurts, makes Ilsa Mar 2025 #43

2years is not very long, especially if your marriage... 3catwoman3 Mar 2025 #45

Thank you for your kind words. Yes, Ilsa Mar 2025 #63

Sorry for your loss orangecrush Mar 2025 #36

Or someone could be concerned about a contagious disease. 3catwoman3 Mar 2025 #34

We were taught CPR in high-school BlueKota Mar 2025 #42

I'm reserving judgment on this one. Firstly, many people don't know Mike 03 Mar 2025 #44

An Unsupported Myth Is... ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #46

I am not going to rush to judgement pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #47

There can be MANY reasons for refusing CPR, I don't see a reason listed Maru Kitteh Mar 2025 #49

The last one orangecrush Mar 2025 #54

Maybe it was obvious she'd been dead awhile. I wouldn't want to do CPR on a dead person either. Vinca Mar 2025 #51

CPR can be done with hands only. ecstatic Mar 2025 #55

Not surprised if the person who called 911 was untrained or panic-stricken. Jedi Guy Mar 2025 #57

The headline is a bit inflammatory Renew Deal Mar 2025 #58

They are designed like that so when someone sees the headline they will click the link and they can present ads. n/t Jacson6 Mar 2025 #60

Maybe she Rebl2 Mar 2025 #59

It is not that easy to do by yourself Meowmee Mar 2025 #65