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proud2BlibKansan

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50. Parents have the legal right to choose whether or not to medicate their children.

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:16 AM

Dec 2012

Schools can't force them to do so. Neither can doctors. There are no consequences for parents who choose to not medicate an ADHD kid. This is becoming more and more common. Lots of unmedicated ADHD kids are in regular classrooms. And kids with other psych disorders who aren't medicated are also in regular classrooms. And in special ed classrooms too.

But this all has nothing to do with the kid who killed the babies in CT. A relative claims he had Aspergers. Another one said there was nothing wrong with him. One article says he was enrolled in high school. Another says he was enrolled n college. And another claims he was home-schooled.

Bottom line - we still don't know enough to draw any conclusions. And connecting this murderer to failures of special education is completely inappropriate.

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Special Education: An Overlooked Factor to the Newtown Tragedy [View all] Jefferson23 Dec 2012 OP

Washington used to be one of the highest-funded states for education. Now it's on a par with HiPointDem Dec 2012 #1

Thanks, there it is right there, " what's available". We spend trillions on destructive wars, Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #2

talk to the democrats in DC because part of it is their fault. but washington state has HiPointDem Dec 2012 #3

And you're certain he was served well in his school? do tell..since you seem so sure of Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #4

FYI, the kid was HOME-SCHOOLED after elementary, so get off your hobbyhorse. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #5

You're as informed about this story as AC 360....so save it for someone else. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #6

I'm from Connecticut, bright light. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #7

Jr. High School can be a traumatic change from the security of one desk, one teacher, one room libdem4life Dec 2012 #12

the caps are for emphasis. the poster is riding his personal hobbyhorse. an article about problems HiPointDem Dec 2012 #15

You do not know that. The school may have required that he be totally medicated to attend school. libdem4life Dec 2012 #19

the school MAY HAVE required him to wear a clown suit and wave his dick to music, too. there's HiPointDem Dec 2012 #20

OK. Carry on. Wave his dick????? Yikes. libdem4life Dec 2012 #23

Baloney. Schools cannot require kids to be "totally medicated". proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #39

No? Maybe in Kansas. And I've been out of the CA system for awhile, but if a child has been libdem4life Dec 2012 #44

That is false. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #46

Relax. It's not the schools prescribing. It's the referral and if the psych prescribes meds, yes, libdem4life Dec 2012 #48

Parents have the legal right to choose whether or not to medicate their children. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #50

If the kids are not endangering the other kids, that's one situation. If they are, it's another. libdem4life Dec 2012 #51

So now it's the school district's fault? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #8

Where does it say it's the school districts fault? Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #10

In the title and all through the piece. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #17

Yep. duffyduff Dec 2012 #24

You know she is not blaming the shooting on the school district. Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #25

agreed Corgigal Dec 2012 #31

It is appropriate to look at situations surrounding problems from Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #34

This is not the case in California. The home-schooled student/family is assigned a credentialed libdem4life Dec 2012 #42

Another red herring. If Adam Lanza had NO easy access to guns, NOBODY would have been killed riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #9

She is not disputing the gun issue...not sequestered to one issue. Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #11

the article about special ed in seattle has nothing to do with this shooting. this is a stupid OP. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #16

You're clueless, truly. This is not about bashing schools. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #26

Yes it is sequestered to one issue. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #45

Ok, don't look at any other variables..good plan. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #60

I agree, this is no time to worry about special education treestar Dec 2012 #52

I can relate a little davidpdx Dec 2012 #13

Thank you for the post. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #30

My sister is a teacher in La. She tells me it's happening there. Must be happening everywhere. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #14

The funding is terrible and the teachers are left to figure it out without proper support, Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #29

Bobby Jindal is hte gov. in La. He diverted public school funds to private schools via vouchers. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #32

She has my sympathy and respect. Arnie Duncan is a nightmare too, and I'll Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #35

Louisiana is a mess duffyduff Dec 2012 #54

Autism spectrum disorders fall under the special ed "umbrella" spedtr90 Dec 2012 #40

Connecticut school shooting: Adam Lanza was assigned psychologist FarCenter Dec 2012 #18

the mom took the kid out of school during the 10th grade and homeschooled him thereafter. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #21

Actually, she also started him in college during what would probably have been his junior year. FarCenter Dec 2012 #27

Gee, I wonder if he got special ed services in college, because HE WASN'T IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #28

Deal with the facts. He was a very disturbed child from an early age, and in school for years. FarCenter Dec 2012 #38

he wasn't in public schools for at least five years before this shooting. but i'm sure he shot HiPointDem Dec 2012 #49

CT schools are funded by town property taxes, not by the county. FarCenter Dec 2012 #53

Newtown is wealthy, actually. Much wealthier then the Connecticut town of Terryville where I live. Jennicut Dec 2012 #56

It is probably still skewed by neighborhoods like the one the Lanza's lived in. FarCenter Dec 2012 #58

the median income is over $100K. which means half make more. which is a wealthy community. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #61

Spending per student in Newtown is below the CT state average. FarCenter Dec 2012 #62

According to the television news this evening iemitsu Dec 2012 #41

How does a school psychologist treat a developmental/social mental issue? They can only refer. libdem4life Dec 2012 #22

More likely Schizoid Personality Disorder FarCenter Dec 2012 #33

Not much can be done, other than medication, hope and somehow a home that can manage it. libdem4life Dec 2012 #36

What does that even mean? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author spedtr90 Dec 2012 #37

Not to mention getting the child to special ed in the first place. Swinging from the chandeliers? libdem4life Dec 2012 #43

Do we even know for a fact this kid was asperger? Mass Dec 2012 #55

His dx of asperger's has not been confirmed through a review of his records, as far as I know. Yet, Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #59

You are so right about special ed. Vattel Dec 2012 #57