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alterfurz

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42. Howard Zinn concurs...

Sun Jan 22, 2012, 02:31 PM

Jan 2012

Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience....Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem. -- Howard Zinn

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America. Is. Too. OBEDIENT. [View all] Zalatix Jan 2012 OP

Wait for the spring. alfredo Jan 2012 #1

Change can only occur in good weather? OWS self-mutilates... Pedalpower Jan 2012 #26

Occupation has morphed into other activities. Now the occupation has become a meeting place in our alfredo Jan 2012 #31

Good post etherealtruth Jan 2012 #2

"Me? I'm not vulnerable! I have a college degree! I ADAPT!!! to the new economy!" Zalatix Jan 2012 #4

We are too busy "texting" and typing on social and political websites. nanabugg Jan 2012 #11

I'm ashamed to say... IcyPeas Jan 2012 #27

Conformity is a killer. Nt xchrom Jan 2012 #3

Happy to K & R. PA Democrat Jan 2012 #5

Me too lsewpershad Jan 2012 #17

And thanks for being understanding! Zalatix Jan 2012 #25

We are kept overworked too. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #6

Some good news RobertEarl Jan 2012 #7

Occupy and Move to Amend? They're a natural couple. n/t Zalatix Jan 2012 #9

I think we are slowly going down the drain quinnox Jan 2012 #8

Better written thread. 99Forever Jan 2012 #10

yes, BUT... handmade34 Jan 2012 #12

I have had this discussion with many people... Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 #13

You know, about the whole homeless squatting in parks thing... Zalatix Jan 2012 #15

You are right that there should not be villification of the homeless. Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 #21

Totally understood. OWS needs to represent a broad swath of people. The whole 99%. Zalatix Jan 2012 #22

Thank You for the re-write, Zalatix, much appreciated. Raffi Ella Jan 2012 #14

I must admit the rich have done a masterful job of listening to Jay Gould's lesson Zalatix Jan 2012 #23

SHUT UP AND WATCH THE KARDASHIANS!!! DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #16

*pops bubblegum* The Kardashians are so 2011. This year is Snooki's. Zalatix Jan 2012 #18

A lot of people who are struggling loyalsister Jan 2012 #19

I think you will much more action in the Spring from OWS. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #20

Occupy had hundreds at the home of the "emergency manager" governor in Mich, just this past week. T S Justly Jan 2012 #24

No draft + a Democrat in the White House = no big protests. Jean V. Dubois Jan 2012 #28

many americans simply don't understand OWS rollin74 Jan 2012 #29

And that's because the lying, misinforming, greed protecting media Mosaic Jan 2012 #30

+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #37

Take heart. PETRUS Jan 2012 #32

Thanks! Fortunately back then they didn't have a Tea Party... did they? Zalatix Jan 2012 #34

Not that I'm aware of. PETRUS Jan 2012 #35

You should probably read up on Bush's grandfather's history for starters lunatica Jan 2012 #38

I have some Arkansas newspapers from 1932 Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #40

Because they're busy searching for a job! Neoma Jan 2012 #33

Occupy is keeping quite busy lunatica Jan 2012 #36

Nobody?? Did you pass out last January and wake up mid-April? ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #39

You'll see huge crowds soon. MineralMan Jan 2012 #41

Howard Zinn concurs... alterfurz Jan 2012 #42

Howard Zinn is quite right. Zalatix Jan 2012 #43