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sabrina 1

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39. Well, the truth is most people who end up committing horrific crimes like this
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:31 AM
Dec 2012

fly under the radar until they do it. But now with so many of these massacres and with each one showing at least two factors that contribute to them, one the easy accessibility of weapons and two, the fact that there were signs that help was needed and that often people who knew them say they were not surprised. Eg, in this case, even though the media reported, incorrectly, that it was Ryan, the older brother, someone who knew them tweeted 'no, it has to be Adam'.

Klebold's mother seems to be saying that she had no idea her son was suicidal until months after the tragedy when she read all of his writings.

If those closest to them cannot tell, is it because they are not as involved in their lives as they should have been, or because they are so good at hiding their emotions around family members?

Imo, family is the least likely to believe their loved ones might be a threat to society even if they have experienced some violent reactions from them. The family becomes so accustomed and familiar with their behavior that they do not see it the way outsiders do.

I think this mother's disbelief that her son was so deeply depressed shows that parents need to be involved in the lives of teenagers. This family seemed to have a 'hands off' approach to their son, assuming wrongly, that all was well with him. While everyone who knew him outside the family, viewed him differently.

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Thanks for this. closeupready Dec 2012 #1
True. My feeling after reading this article and from earlier reports is that sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #7
That poor woman. I think that's why the father of Emilie Parker offered.. Little Star Dec 2012 #2
Yes, I thought that was a very kind thing for him to do. In the Amish massacre, they sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #3
After reading the Dave Cullen book on Columbine, I found Klebold's story to be classically tragic. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #4
Tough read ellisonz Dec 2012 #5
As my shrink says: WHY is not the question maxsolomon Dec 2012 #6
It's irresponsible to neglect "why?" and inquiring closeupready Dec 2012 #11
There are many questions, and 'Why' definitely has to be one of them. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #12
"i will never know why" maxsolomon Dec 2012 #15
Okay, maybe I misunderstood your comment. I don't think this article answered that sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #16
Let me clarify: maxsolomon Dec 2012 #25
Not sure I agree with that line of reasoning. Most people don't even consider sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #29
Alienation. Anomie. Infamy. maxsolomon Dec 2012 #40
Exactly NOBODY would have been shot if there hadn't been access to guns, regardless of mental health riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #21
My husband and i watched Beautiful Boy about a month ago. FedUpWithIt All Dec 2012 #8
I had not heard of that movie, thanks for mentioning it. I just looked it up sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #18
Newsweek ran a terrific article on the pastors who tried to counsel the Klebold and Harris families riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #23
I never heard that story before. I do remember the girl they mention and had no sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #32
You're welcome. It is a really hard film. FedUpWithIt All Dec 2012 #30
Wow what a powerful story forthemiddle Dec 2012 #9
I agree it is commendable that she does not blame 'bullies' as the media reported. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #14
They got the guns through friends, who illegally sold them to them under the table riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #22
I regard her as a failed parent bluestateguy Dec 2012 #10
What about the father? Or the easy access they had to the guns they used? Or sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #13
Him too. bluestateguy Dec 2012 #17
wasn't Eric Harris the Bully ? JI7 Dec 2012 #34
Yes, someone in the thread also pointed that out. That Harris was sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #38
None of them were failed parents obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #27
seems like this recent one's were JI7 Dec 2012 #33
Site won't let you read past page 1 treestar Dec 2012 #19
Click the 'print' button. Cerridwen Dec 2012 #24
Aha brilliant treestar Dec 2012 #31
I just checked and it's still working for me. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #28
Is she the one who did not go to the basement for 3 years? SoCalDem Dec 2012 #20
There are so many victims after these tragedies, so very many. sheshe2 Dec 2012 #26
Coincidentally, I found the same article two nights ago XemaSab Dec 2012 #35
And for all the people calling for increased mental health awareness XemaSab Dec 2012 #36
Well, the truth is most people who end up committing horrific crimes like this sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #39
If she doesn't know "why" years after the fact... lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #37
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