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JHB

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76. Because it's NOT just one person, it's several collections of zealots who see him as their "big chance"
Sun Apr 6, 2025, 10:59 AM
Apr 2025

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There has always been a faction of the Conservative Movement that had a sneaking admiration for the Bolsheviks. Not the ideology, of course, but for the ability of a small radical faction to play other factions against each other, maneuver for leverage, and being absolutely ruthless when they saw a chance to take total control.

These Conservo-Bolsheviks have always wanted to do away with the New Deal, get rid of the income tax, any program or policy that helps ordinary people. To them, America's "golden age" was literally that: the Gilded Age of the late 19th century, when "great men" built great industries, amassed huge fortunes, and didn't have to put up with any damn government hampering them for trifles like "grinding people under their heels." This is the leadership of the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society and Project 2025, people like Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh who actively worked to paint Democrats as "the enemy". They demonized Bill and Hillary Clinton so that less extreme Republicans wouldn't decide they could work with a "pro-business" Democrat who was content to work with and tweak the Reaganomics framework rather than to reverse it. If the squishier ones went that way, the Conservo-Bolsheviks could kiss any chance of more extreme measures goodbye. Thus, we've had the last 35 years, with Republicans hamstringing Democrats at every opportunity while going for broke whenever the opportunity presents itself, all while consistently putting conservative operatives on the Federal courts.

Overlapping with them are the Pluto-Bolsheviks. They share a lot of goals with the Conservo-Bolsheviks, but being the guys footing the bills, they want to make sure the outcome is tailored to their liking. This is the Kochs, the Mercers, all sorts of billionaires and multi-millionaires. This group was especially active in trying to get enough support for a new constitutional convention, where the nation's foundations could just be rewritten to their liking, locking in their own personal obsessions and making reform pretty much impossible. And by making reform impossible they would make revolution inevitable.

Next up are the Theo-Bolsheviks, an odd coalition of extremist Evangelical Protestants and right-wing Catholics. They think America has been a moral nosedive since the 60s, and they're out to put the country "back" to a place it never really was, but the facade makes them all tingly. These are the various Trump-loving Evangelicals who rationalize his behavior as that of a modern King Cyrus, the hardliners of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Opus Dei people, all the Catholic RWers on the Supreme Court, etc. Even if the Theo-Bolsheiks came out on top, they're doomed to simply turn on each other due to the "Catholics aren't Christian" views of the Evangelicals. But for the time being they have enough in common with each other and the other factions that they can work together on "step 1: taking control."

The latest addition are the Techno-Bolsheviks: Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance, and others who have adopted Curtis Yarvin as their guru. Yarvin argues that American democracy is a failed experiment that should be replaced by an accountable monarchy, similar to the governance structure of corporations. They fully believe they're the only ones who have brains. The rest of us are pretty much insect drones, and lesser beings whose expertise can be replaced with AI. In other words, they're F***ING NUTS, and they'd be harmless if they were muttering into their cups together at some dive bar, but instead they're some of the richest men in the world, and their views overlap enough with the other groups that they're all useful to each other.

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If I were a believer, coffeenap Apr 2025 #1
The Anti-Christ is here. no_hypocrisy Apr 2025 #2
"Christians have been warning us about marybourg Apr 2025 #4
And if the true Christ were to return, they would support sending him to Jack Valentino Apr 2025 #108
Well... 2naSalit Apr 2025 #114
That's exactly what I thought. Fla Dem Apr 2025 #46
I am Lutheran and am also coming to that conclusion. MuirHero Apr 2025 #124
Or at least satan's half-wit brother. harumph Apr 2025 #3
I'm a former believer, but I've been saying Trump is the Devil for years. I again believe in the concept of evil. sop Apr 2025 #5
Same here... PittBlue Apr 2025 #95
Yes, he's the devil incarnate. MuirHero Apr 2025 #123
I just wrote that on a different thread. BigmanPigman Apr 2025 #52
Not only that coffee nap DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #58
I'm an atheist but he's like Damien tonekat Apr 2025 #68
Trump's greed and narcissism are of demonic levels. NCDem47 Apr 2025 #78
F47 is seriously one or two prophecies short of being the actual fucking antichrist, he's really challenging my atheism 0rganism Apr 2025 #101
If I were a true believer, I would realize that it was SATAN and NOT GOD, Jack Valentino Apr 2025 #107
Satan works in mysterious ways calguy Apr 2025 #6
Non-biblical explanation: 1) He's a psychopath (what some call evil) and 2) he's allowed to do it. CousinIT Apr 2025 #7
He's been destroying other people's stuff for nearly seven decades. In a allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #20
He's been a spawn of Satan his whole life. BigmanPigman Apr 2025 #59
Reading about his childhood behavior is chilling. KitFox Apr 2025 #89
That whole "derangement syndrome" thing started under Bush... JHB Apr 2025 #91
I saw that documentary at the library NJCher Apr 2025 #106
He is a psychopath/ sociopath narcissist- lets just call it what it is Meowmee Apr 2025 #113
Trump Derangement Syndrome llmart Apr 2025 #127
Yep. Voters elected him. LisaL Apr 2025 #24
He only makes sense as a narcissist sociopath celebrity pioche4 Apr 2025 #118
I have met many a CEO of large corporations DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #60
"Snakes in Suits' - highly recommended read. n/t CousinIT Apr 2025 #85
One of various "design flaws" of human nature: John Ludi Apr 2025 #8
So true. One needs only to think of Jim Jones. It's a curious feature of allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #37
Yes. At times, the grifter sounds like Jim Jones. yellow dahlia Apr 2025 #99
It's bad when charisma is paired with psychopathy HariSeldon Apr 2025 #51
Could never see the charisma. Bumbles Apr 2025 #71
Me neither. Always thought he was kind of an asshole--- Jack Valentino Apr 2025 #109
Yes. yardwork Apr 2025 #54
In the 2010's Cambridge Analytica markodochartaigh Apr 2025 #83
It's not just one person. The Republican party JI7 Apr 2025 #9
It's way beyond the Republican party. RandomNumbers Apr 2025 #21
+1,000,000 Auggie Apr 2025 #40
It makes me so angry when some of these ... Cherrycheeks Apr 2025 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author krkaufman Apr 2025 #57
US Constitution is outdated kansasobama Apr 2025 #10
The Framers were men of honor, they failed to account for the possibility men like Trump would be president. sop Apr 2025 #15
Oh, they knew it was possible. They all had classical educations, and the Greeks and Romans... JHB Apr 2025 #92
+1. Our democracy at the national level is severely defective. dalton99a Apr 2025 #18
Kurt Godel suggested there were inconsistencies with the Constitution that could lead to a dictatorship. CrispyQ Apr 2025 #47
Thank you for this info kansasobama Apr 2025 #86
Because one of our partys have chosen to ignore the Constitution. spanone Apr 2025 #11
Because no one has stopped him Meowmee Apr 2025 #12
+1 leftstreet Apr 2025 #14
Technically it wasn't one person William769 Apr 2025 #13
It is the crazy real cost of Dictatorship as a form of govt. nt delisen Apr 2025 #16
The US started erecting the 'imperial presidency' in the 60s & 70s. Now, 60 odd years on, we're reaping the bitter fruit Celerity Apr 2025 #17
Because nobody stopped him, and he has plenty of enablers. Ocelot II Apr 2025 #19
Because he's allowed to... n/t Hugin Apr 2025 #22
Well, he has a lot of enablers. LisaL Apr 2025 #23
Too much power concentrated in one executive position. Trueblue Texan Apr 2025 #25
Greed built the pyramid that Oligarchs fed. Don't worship false idols unless you paid for him. /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 2025 #26
Corrupt Supreme Court Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #27
Did hear, 'tho, this a.m. that Leo and the Koch Bros. are furious about the allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #50
$6 Trillion is no small sum. Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #64
krasnov has many enablers et tu Apr 2025 #66
Legions Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #69
so many enablers et tu Apr 2025 #73
Because he's been allowed to. Everyone is afraid of him. I remember the first time I punched a bully back, Hotler Apr 2025 #28
Catastrophic climate change was a world wide effort that took decades Kaleva Apr 2025 #29
How? Autocracy. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #30
He has lots of help. Turbineguy Apr 2025 #31
He's enabled by a bunch of cowards. AllyCat Apr 2025 #32
OH, there is a definite discernible purpose to the damage he's doing! lark Apr 2025 #33
He has a large propaganda machine including FOX, Heritage, amd the whole GOP struggle4progress Apr 2025 #34
I think three words can answer this question. bluestarone Apr 2025 #35
Murdock/Limbaugh and that whole brainwashing hate the libs thing. That technique has led to genocide in the past Blues Heron Apr 2025 #36
The brainwashing hate the libs thing is largely responsible for how we got here. yellow dahlia Apr 2025 #104
Because Butler PA was staged and not real. Orrex Apr 2025 #38
I thought so immediately. yellow dahlia Apr 2025 #105
It's NOT one person maxrandb Apr 2025 #39
Very well said! erronis Apr 2025 #41
ONE PERSON BlueMTexpat Apr 2025 #43
Could I get a little context Littlered Apr 2025 #44
Seriously? milestogo Apr 2025 #63
Bye orangecrush Apr 2025 #100
Maybe partly because the Repukes have worked tirelessly to bring their dreams ToxMarz Apr 2025 #45
ONE PERSON couldn't. One person enabled by a corrupt judiciary and millions of selfish morons - easy. n/t TygrBright Apr 2025 #48
GOP members of Congress tonekat Apr 2025 #67
Not just one Mz Pip Apr 2025 #49
It's not just 1 person his entire Administration plus musk. FloridaBlues Apr 2025 #53
He is the hammer and the handle is being held by... S/V Loner Apr 2025 #55
Perfect summation. I always have that Grover Norquist quote pop into my head I think it was at CPAC and he said KitFox Apr 2025 #84
Love it. n/t S/V Loner Apr 2025 #94
Because he's an immortal, selfish, POS devil. n/t aggiesal Apr 2025 #56
Because the people who can stop him refuse to do it. milestogo Apr 2025 #61
JD Vance won't have the following Trump does. Elessar Zappa Apr 2025 #131
He could win if they keep screwing with voter rolls and election laws milestogo Apr 2025 #133
You're right seta1950 Apr 2025 #62
I'm not a Religious person JustAnotherGen Apr 2025 #65
It's the Republican Party that is responsible for this damage, the Orange Menace is just their tool. dem4decades Apr 2025 #70
It isn't one person doing this. It's everyone in Project 2025. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2025 #72
It's the same dynamic as takes place in the T.V. series, Uncle Joe Apr 2025 #74
It's not one person birdographer Apr 2025 #75
Because it's NOT just one person, it's several collections of zealots who see him as their "big chance" JHB Apr 2025 #76
Good post. Re: the Catholics, another component is integralism. For added reference: chia Apr 2025 #130
Mitch McConnell, Merrick Garland and SCOTUS own this ecstatic Apr 2025 #77
It's not one person kacekwl Apr 2025 #79
Trump is able to do this by tapping into, manipulating, and exploiting the craven, cowardly, greedy, unprincipled, Martin68 Apr 2025 #80
Trump has millions of enablers helping him. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #81
James Comey nowforever Apr 2025 #82
Agree and also Garland kansasobama Apr 2025 #88
It's not uncommon. Hitler. Mao. Stalin. Napoleon. Pizzaro. Columbus. Ayn Rand. Milton Friedman AZLD4Candidate Apr 2025 #87
The "Strongman" must demonstrate power thought crime Apr 2025 #90
Because the drafters of our constitution had to compromise and include stupid shit Mysterian Apr 2025 #93
What I want to know is, how the fuck is anyone OK with this? Initech Apr 2025 #96
TSF has a lot of enabler's.IF he succeeds in what their plan is, there will be bluestarone Apr 2025 #97
I used to pondert that question about Hitler. Now I'm part of the disaster. GulfofMexico Apr 2025 #98
Putin is pulling all the strings...that is the real puppet master JT45242 Apr 2025 #102
because AN ENTIRE POLITICAL PARTY IS BACKING HIM Skittles Apr 2025 #103
I had about 15 IRL time in an airport near the orange pos JCMach1 Apr 2025 #110
This is a real lesson in civics, politics, and the damage Man can do to others. Aussie105 Apr 2025 #111
No, we recognized it immediately, please do not include me and many others in "we" Meowmee Apr 2025 #112
How?? Complicity, Complacecy, and COWARDICE. B.See Apr 2025 #115
Because we let him. OldBaldy1701E Apr 2025 #116
Well, you can thank... GiqueCee Apr 2025 #117
Because WE HAVE NO FAIRNESS DOCTRINE REQUIRING TRUTH IN NEWS REPORTING AND HAVE NOT SINCE PatrickforB Apr 2025 #119
The Fairness doctrine won't help. Elessar Zappa Apr 2025 #132
I disagree. This is like saying that it is usless to spray water into the living room of a burning house because PatrickforB Apr 2025 #135
Because the giddy for the geddon folks want jeebus to come back faster! Crowman2009 Apr 2025 #120
because we live in a cartoon democracy and have been living in one for a while Javaman Apr 2025 #121
He was enabled by the tens of millions who voted for him Crunchy Frog Apr 2025 #122
If someone like Trump can be elected president, the people are the problem HereForTheParty Apr 2025 #125
I believe in D&D's alignment chart as a way of graphically plotting behavior to establish a personality type Simeon Salus Apr 2025 #126
Well, JBTaurus83 Apr 2025 #128
By exploiting the US' love of bigotry and racism. nt MaeScott Apr 2025 #129
With permission by folk who prioritize who and what they hate Torchlight Apr 2025 #134
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