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132. Get this through your head, I'm NOT DODGING ANYTHING.

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:25 PM

Dec 2012

It's a simple question that is nothing but baiting. Fuck, it's like dealing with an infant. I said it's SICK to base our laws upon anything that Mexico has done because it would be completely inapplicable. I never said once that Mexico's gun laws should be changed for Mexico. Comprende? Of course not. I haven't dodged shit. You have, on the other hand, used myriad logical fallacies. And even then, your logic is so incredibly tortured that most 5 graders can see right through it. For fuck's sake, is ANY OF THIS getting through to you?

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A person capable of shooting a five year old eleven times is beyond gun control. [View all] Herlong Dec 2012 OP

Yes, but if there were only 6 bullets per clip perhaps someone could of stopped him when reloading. peacebird Dec 2012 #1

He clearly had to reload several times AlexSatan Dec 2012 #24

He had two 30 round magazines taped together exboyfil Dec 2012 #26

If he didn't have 30 round clips AlexSatan Dec 2012 #33

You want to bet the life of someone YOU love on your assertion? PA Democrat Dec 2012 #60

Are you willing to bet the life of someone YOU love AlexSatan Dec 2012 #66

Your statement is nonsensical. PA Democrat Dec 2012 #67

LOL AlexSatan Dec 2012 #76

False equivalence. PA Democrat Dec 2012 #81

Since you want to continue to play AlexSatan Dec 2012 #84

Let me explain why your argument is nonsense. PA Democrat Dec 2012 #85

There is also the possibility AlexSatan Dec 2012 #88

Keep spinning. Look up when Jared Loughner was taken down. PA Democrat Dec 2012 #89

One example AlexSatan Dec 2012 #90

Bullshit and you know it. PA Democrat Dec 2012 #97

Let's take a look AlexSatan Dec 2012 #100

This one is easy, ban all detachable magazines, Throckmorton Dec 2012 #103

Good luck AlexSatan Dec 2012 #105

Well, it is a start Throckmorton Dec 2012 #121

Any of this grandfathered? WinniSkipper Dec 2012 #123

And for the revolvers? AlexSatan Dec 2012 #129

What incredibly tortured logic. EOTE Dec 2012 #91

Please show where I said "can never" AlexSatan Dec 2012 #92

You said that if he had guns with lower capacity, he just would have spent less bullets on each kid. EOTE Dec 2012 #94

You are apparently not skilled enough AlexSatan Dec 2012 #95

Once again, utterly asinine logic. EOTE Dec 2012 #96

Ah, but he *only* killed as many as he did AlexSatan Dec 2012 #98

Mexico is definitely not a first world country, if that's what you're asking. EOTE Dec 2012 #104

OK AlexSatan Dec 2012 #107

I'd suggest reading a little bit harder. EOTE Dec 2012 #112

My bad AlexSatan Dec 2012 #117

You're damned right we don't want to model our gun laws on Mexico's. EOTE Dec 2012 #120

You didn't answer the question AlexSatan Dec 2012 #122

I didn't say that there's anything wrong with Mexico's gun laws. EOTE Dec 2012 #124

Really? AlexSatan Dec 2012 #125

Christ, do you need this spelled out for you like a child? EOTE Dec 2012 #131

no, but you COULD actually answer the question AlexSatan Dec 2012 #133

Fuck you're dense. EOTE Dec 2012 #134

That makes no sense. They're fine laws AlexSatan Dec 2012 #136

Do you STILL not see the difference between Mexico and the U.S.? EOTE Dec 2012 #138

-- AlexSatan Dec 2012 #144

So now you've lost even the ability to use words? EOTE Dec 2012 #145

-- AlexSatan Dec 2012 #146

Not that I expect an answer (at least not an answer that wouldn't be provided by an infant) EOTE Dec 2012 #148

Here's a clue for you, chuckles. EOTE Dec 2012 #140

Get this through your head, I'm NOT DODGING ANYTHING. EOTE Dec 2012 #132

Oh, it is crystal clear AlexSatan Dec 2012 #137

Do you ever get tired of using strawmen? EOTE Dec 2012 #139

Mexico has laws which are much more restrictive than ours. AlexSatan Dec 2012 #142

You don't have logic. You have nothing approaching logic. EOTE Dec 2012 #143

Do those other countries have more restrictive guns laws AlexSatan Dec 2012 #147

These are the first times you've asked those questions, chump. EOTE Dec 2012 #149

Not true AlexSatan Dec 2012 #150

Different question, chump. I answered that as soon as you asked it. EOTE Dec 2012 #152

Is Australia first world? AlexSatan Dec 2012 #153

Yes, it did help. Can you not see that? EOTE Dec 2012 #155

History doesn't bear that out Xithras Dec 2012 #118

Theres something going on all right. The Link Dec 2012 #2

+1 Squinch Dec 2012 #7

+1000 RetroLounge Dec 2012 #29

No, not really cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #3

^^^ This ^^^ etherealtruth Dec 2012 #4

No, Japan just has sarin gas attacks in their subways Azathoth Dec 2012 #14

That was 1995 Gold Rush Dec 2012 #16

I'm not trying to "negate" any discussion of gun regulation Azathoth Dec 2012 #18

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #19

lol, let's see here Azathoth Dec 2012 #20

Yep Gold Rush Dec 2012 #22

Sure you are RetroLounge Dec 2012 #30

Profound Azathoth Dec 2012 #35

Did mommy buy you a thesaurus? RetroLounge Dec 2012 #36

Wow, I didn't know they sold dinosaurs! Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #43

so what ? people still die in car accidents, does that mean we should not regulate JI7 Dec 2012 #48

We do regulate guns in that sense Recursion Dec 2012 #80

Other counties get massacres once every ten yrs or so. baldguy Dec 2012 #65

once a week? elehhhhna Dec 2012 #27

We have mass shootings once a week? Azathoth Dec 2012 #34

As often as we have gun massacres? treestar Dec 2012 #62

Consistently, or merely an aberration? LanternWaste Dec 2012 #68

Several possible answers to that Azathoth Dec 2012 #151

There was an attack like this in China on Friday but with a knife Quixote1818 Dec 2012 #5

My guess is he didnt want to kill Dokkie Dec 2012 #56

Yes. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #70

Care to explain yourself Dokkie Dec 2012 #106

Look here is the equation mental illness + AR-15 = 27 dead. upaloopa Dec 2012 #6

Exactly! srichardson Dec 2012 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Herlong Dec 2012 #13

Most of the people who are considered mentally ill Herlong Dec 2012 #15

No they're not. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2012 #8

I'm really glad he was killed in the shooting democrattotheend Dec 2012 #9

If he had lived, though, we might have gotten some answers. GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #58

I'm not 'glad' about anything that happened, except that maybe, just maybe, the coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #101

When I see a five year old child the only thing I can do is smile Herlong Dec 2012 #11

What is a twenty year old doing Herlong Dec 2012 #12

Fucked up people think fucked up things laundry_queen Dec 2012 #23

You get dumber with every post. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #71

Yet those deeper problems would be far less leathal without a gun. jeff47 Dec 2012 #108

This family had the cash to get the finest mental health services in the world. This is about guns riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #17

Exactly! +1,000! scarletwoman Dec 2012 #25

that's a very good point in favor of gun control renate Dec 2012 #50

+1! uponit7771 Dec 2012 #52

+1 Dems to Win Dec 2012 #54

Lanza was 20 years old Abq_Sarah Dec 2012 #55

But the govt can force someone to get mental blueamy66 Dec 2012 #59

Saw an interview on The Ed Show on MSNBC last night with Dr. Gail Saltz AndyA Dec 2012 #87

And the Mother should have gotten rid of the guns blueamy66 Dec 2012 #99

Except he was exibiting all sorts of mental health issues back when he was under 18 jeff47 Dec 2012 #109

+10000000 treestar Dec 2012 #63

K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #21

It is ALL about guns sellitman Dec 2012 #28

There certainly is, but it's just ever so much more satisfy to scream at each other to no purpose. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #31

The person might be... 99Forever Dec 2012 #32

So... more guns? upi402 Dec 2012 #37

Not true. Keep guns off the street. We don't need them. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #38

It was a GUN Lex Dec 2012 #39

Sure there is. rrneck Dec 2012 #40

Watch look listen Herlong Dec 2012 #41

... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #53

Fuck that. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #42

Personally, I think gun control is a problem Herlong Dec 2012 #44

If it was the culture, violent crime in general would be going up. It's not. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Herlong Dec 2012 #46

This isn't about "true human evolution", this is about machines designed to kill lots of people in a Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #49

It would make a good varmint rifle Abq_Sarah Dec 2012 #57

And when those "varmints" are kindergartners? 99Forever Dec 2012 #74

If those children had been killed by a nut with a knife Abq_Sarah Dec 2012 #156

Non sequitur 99Forever Dec 2012 #158

Then build a fucking wall around your cattle Not Me Dec 2012 #78

Why do you need a 30-round clip on your varmint rifle? jeff47 Dec 2012 #111

Convenience Abq_Sarah Dec 2012 #157

Yes, but if you're shooting a varmint, you aren't going to be firing dozens of rounds (nt) jeff47 Dec 2012 #159

WWII recordings Amak8 Dec 2012 #47

So let's just give the fuck up and put increasingly deadly weapons into their hands! villager Dec 2012 #51

He was capable of doing it because he had the gun treestar Dec 2012 #61

If by "the gun" you mean "any gun" then yes sir pball Dec 2012 #102

No, Grampa's pump-action doesn't carry enough ammuntion. jeff47 Dec 2012 #113

Carries more, actually. sir pball Dec 2012 #119

Reading, you might wanna try it. jeff47 Dec 2012 #135

Well.. sir pball Dec 2012 #160

The gun he used at that range will over-penetrate a lot. A shotgun would not as much. jeff47 Dec 2012 #161

But his mother wasn't. undeterred Dec 2012 #64

So fucking what? Zoeisright Dec 2012 #69

The "without" is the problem Recursion Dec 2012 #77

Because it's worked in every other first-world country. jeff47 Dec 2012 #114

Where are you guys coming from? Cleita Dec 2012 #72

Precisely. 99Forever Dec 2012 #73

Why don't you explain why we in the US have the highest incidence of these types of massacres then PA Democrat Dec 2012 #75

But if he couldn't have gotten the guns get the red out Dec 2012 #79

Agreed, but Recursion Dec 2012 #82

You aren't thinking about this too hard, are you? jeff47 Dec 2012 #115

Well, I'm with you magazine size Recursion Dec 2012 #116

Nope alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #83

Another gun enabler! Mass Dec 2012 #86

Some of these kids were so destroyed the ME had to show pictures for ID. Historic NY Dec 2012 #93

Such a person is beyond gun control, but gun control isn't for them jeff47 Dec 2012 #110

yes. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #126

The larger problem is not about this one incident jberryhill Dec 2012 #127

Probably from a mental perspective, but gun control isn't about mental health. Bradical79 Dec 2012 #128

Gun Control Enters The Picture BEFORE This Kid Ever Gets His Hands On One ChoppinBroccoli Dec 2012 #130

It's OK - you'll understand eventually - the control works it way out and around jmg257 Dec 2012 #141

with no guns, no ammo and locked doors how many would he have killed? bowens43 Dec 2012 #154