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madfloridian

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Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:50 PM Dec 2012

Guess what? Chained CPI is the bright idea of Third Way, the Dem "policy shop". [View all]

The DLC once claimed to be the "policy shop" for Democrats. In 2011 Fox Democrat Kirsten Powers posted that DLC had shut down, and the Third Way had taken their place.

The policies recommended by these Democratic "think tanks" have controlled our party for years.

Here are the details of their Social Security plan posted 2011 at the website of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

Third Way Introduces New Social Security Reform Plan

Yesterday, the organization Third Way released a plan outlining several Social Security reform proposals meant to ensure the program's solvency over the next 75 years. The plan, called Saving Social Security, makes several fundamental changes to the program and cuts $2 in benefits for every $1 it increases taxes. The authors of the plan describe it as "savings-led" and say that by approaching Social Security reform in a progressive way, it's possible to come up with "a solvency plan that would make Franklin Roosevelt proud". The major points of the plan are summarized in the tables below:


Proposal Savings Through 2040 Portion of 75 year Budget Gap Closed

make benefits formula more progressive neutral no effect

index retirement age to longevity, reaching 70 by 2077 $1 trillion >one-third

cut payroll taxes in half for older workers unspecified modest cost

switch to chained CPI for COLAs $2 trillion ~one-third

increase payroll tax for high-income workers (with or without a FICA "donut hole" payment)

$1.2 trillion ~one-third

fully tax benefits for high-income seniors $500 billion modest improvement

means test benefits

immigration reforms (including surcharges on immigrant visas) $115 billion modest improvement
TOTAL <$5 trillion >100%


Here is more about the Third Way plan which includes private accounts.

Third Way's new Social Security Plan

The plan also calls for creating optional private retirement accounts for those in the workforce and under 30; it dedicates $8 billion per year to these accounts, with funds being raised by an increase in the Estate Tax.

....In an op-ed in Politico, the authors of the plan - Jim Kessler and David Kendall - explain the reasoning behind some of their proposals and offer very interesting insight, particularly in regards to the widely-held view that any Social Security reform that touches benefits is completely unacceptable. They also make several interesting observations about the idea of Social Security reform that is solely revenue-based. If you look at Social Security in isolation, maintaining its solvency through only increased revenue is theoretically possible. However, that view is unrealistic; Social Security needs to be viewed in the context of all federal government priorities. Viewed in this light, is maintaining the current level of promised Social Security benefits the very best use of increased taxes? You can only raise so much additional revenue, and funneling all of it into Social Security hinders the government’s ability to adequately fund other important priorities. This is why the authors maintain that Social Security reform must alter the trajectory of the program’s growth rather than simply financing it, and why the plan makes $2 in benefit cuts for every $1 it raises in revenue. As Mr. Kessler and Mr. Kendall state in their op-ed:

"It would be reckless to allow Social Security to take up the entire pool of what is potentially available to deal with the retirement of the baby boom generation...Social Security is one of the greatest liberal achievements. But many groups on the left have drawn a line in the sand that could doom it or set the nation on a course to fiscal ruins. Putting the weight of his Nobel Prize in economics behind this anti-reform coalition, New York Times columnist and Princeton professor Paul Krugman calls the Social Security crisis "invented" by "Social Security attackers" using "bad-faith accounting". Americans can be thankful that progressives such as Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and Robert Greenstein of the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities have weighed in behind other serious approaches that include benefit cuts."


I HAVE drawn that line in the sand.




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Not surprising since most of the Third Way board members are wealthy banksters. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #1
The president of that group wrote an essay in the 90s to privatize SS madfloridian Dec 2012 #4
Yes. This is important. jsr Dec 2012 #14
+1 HiPointDem Dec 2012 #18
Of course it is. woo me with science Dec 2012 #2
Upset with Durbin since he was on Bowles Simpson commission. madfloridian Dec 2012 #3
Dick Durbin used to be a liberal, or maybe he just faked it better and longer than the others. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #26
Jay Carney said it is something the Republicans wanted. madfloridian Dec 2012 #5
Not a Republican idea only...pushed by "centrist" Democrats. madfloridian Dec 2012 #6
Kick. woo me with science Dec 2012 #7
Thanks for the kick. madfloridian Dec 2012 #8
Hint: Especially posts that expose the Third Way. Zorra Dec 2012 #10
You really should read this: jsr Dec 2012 #15
Naive me. Never thought of anything like that happening. madfloridian Dec 2012 #16
Shocking! Not. K&R nt Zorra Dec 2012 #9
K&R! octoberlib Dec 2012 #11
Gosh, I remember when the Democratic Party was regarded as "The Party of the People". Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #12
ooh, those wacky dems! HiPointDem Dec 2012 #13
Kochs help fund Third Way, maybe? nt Mc Mike Dec 2012 #17
I know the Heritage Foundation funded it, looking up now for the others. madfloridian Dec 2012 #22
I tried, could only get some David Koch refs. Mc Mike Dec 2012 #27
I found this post from the DU archives 2004. Quite a bit of info on funders of DLC madfloridian Dec 2012 #28
Just speculated Koch funding reflexively, Mc Mike Dec 2012 #29
To find them you almost have to know who wrote them. madfloridian Dec 2012 #31
Seems almost like the g-sponsored site search has a randomizer function in it. Mc Mike Dec 2012 #34
Evil. reformist2 Dec 2012 #19
Of course it is. Public policy, political philosophy plutocrats cloaked as 'think tanks' Melinda Dec 2012 #20
It's spelled the Turd Way n/t hootinholler Dec 2012 #21
Kick. woo me with science Dec 2012 #23
Kick to remind how we got here. nt woo me with science Dec 2012 #24
K&R Hell Hath No Fury Dec 2012 #25
the Turd Way strikes again. hobbit709 Dec 2012 #30
Yet we are supposed to imagine when a Dem proposes it, "He didn't mean it." DirkGently Dec 2012 #32
Hunh! They're the job creators, madfloridian. Octafish Dec 2012 #33
That is very true, Octafish. madfloridian Dec 2012 #37
Uh, no. Please Google 1996 Boskin Commission. NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #35
Well, in their posted plan they take credit for it. madfloridian Dec 2012 #36
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