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Stonepounder

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47. The bastards are literally taking food out of my mouth!

Reply to In Truth We Trust (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:53 PM

Dec 2012

My wife and I live on our SS income. I worked for 50 years, paying into SS from the time I was 15 to the time I retired at 65. It wasn't a tax, it was a contribution to a defined benefit plan. SS is NOT an entitlement, it is NOT part of the debt crisis, cutting SS won't pay down the debt by a single penny.

Instead, it cuts MY freaking COLA, which this year is a lousy 1.7%. We've already cut things pretty much to the bone - to the point where we actually consider whether we can afford the gas to go to the grocery or whether we need to wait another day or two and consolidate a few errands into one trip.

The lying bastards promised - Obama, Pelosi, and others absolutely promised that 'SS was not on the table'. You all see how long those promises lasted. They are all lying scum who don't give a rat's ass about anyone except themselves and their rich donors.

Screw them all.

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Just for the record: Social Security is self funded and does NOT add to the debt. rec for the truth. [View all] In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 OP

He's already shown that very clearly... MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #1

Wondering, do you find people who dictate for everyon else what vast sets of different things "show" patrice Dec 2012 #3

Are you accusing me of being fascist? MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #6

How accurately does my description characterize your post? & I really was just wondering about your patrice Dec 2012 #8

Are you accusing me of being fascist? MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #10

I asked you a question which you are refusing to answer. Why is that? You could have SHOWN that patrice Dec 2012 #19

Are you calling me a fascist? It's a simple question. Yes or no? MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #22

I asked you if you are one. Are you? Yes or no? patrice Dec 2012 #28

You didn't ask me that, LOL. Your first response seemed to imply you were ACCUSING me of being a MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #50

You assume that we know why Obama would put chained CPI on the table, which isn't a cut, btw, it's patrice Dec 2012 #51

Wow. You really love to throw that word "fascist" around when YOU are the one ordering MotherPetrie forestpath Dec 2012 #16

Perhaps your standards for rationalism are different from mine, more willing to assume big stuff patrice Dec 2012 #24

MotherPetrie said no such thing. But you keep putting words in MP's mouth. forestpath Dec 2012 #27

Pardon me if I observe that OPINION is opinion, even if the opinionated refuses to do so. nt patrice Dec 2012 #29

That's NOT what you're doing. You keep claiming they said things they didn't say. forestpath Dec 2012 #30

Please quote what you're referring to and I will evaluate myself. patrice Dec 2012 #36

Exposing lies, telling the truth is not fascist. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #9

well said. robinlynne Dec 2012 #11

+1 forestpath Dec 2012 #18

What kind of truth? We are talking about millions of people here, so facts are most useful. & patrice Dec 2012 #26

Interesting answer. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #55

He showed it long ago. This will not turn all the Democrats against him, but plethoro Dec 2012 #45

The president has now created a new Democratic program. This is now the Obama Austerity program. fasttense Dec 2012 #64

Un-rec: If I can reduce the number of middle-wo/men in between what SS deposites in my bank acount @ patrice Dec 2012 #2

And I'll take it that anyone who disagrees with my budget priority wants SUBSIDIES for FOR-PROFIT patrice Dec 2012 #12

You are unbelievable nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #41

And you take people who characterize vast sets of information & persons, about which they know patrice Dec 2012 #48

DURec leftstreet Dec 2012 #4

except that it is raided for it's cash Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #5

It's a big pot of cash Hydra Dec 2012 #7

and who is letting them stay there right this minute by permitting ANY discussion of SS? robinlynne Dec 2012 #13

Thank you. woo me with science Dec 2012 #15

The American people... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #14

how big is the pot of cash? mostlyconfused Dec 2012 #52

answers to all of your qs, and others, are at the ssa.gov website spooky3 Dec 2012 #60

Taxes collected do not cover the outlays mostlyconfused Dec 2012 #62

SSI has been running a surplus up until very recently Hydra Dec 2012 #71

Why didn't you take my advice? The answer is at the site. That suggests to me that you are not spooky3 Dec 2012 #72

Couldn't find the the info in the page, so mostlyconfused Dec 2012 #73

Go to the SSA site and look for the FAQ page on the social security trust fund, for a start. spooky3 Dec 2012 #74

k&r avaistheone1 Dec 2012 #17

K&R, again. This fact has been shown and shown and shown again, yet even here there are so many Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #20

just lift the cap SHRED Dec 2012 #21

Too many opinionated people around TRYING to limit the options here to EVER get consideration of patrice Dec 2012 #33

Yes, without doing anything, the fund is good to 2037. Forever after lifting the cap. mbperrin Dec 2012 #38

It's a no brainer, and for Obama to go after SS now that we've given him grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #57

it also helps stimulate the economy SHRED Dec 2012 #23

I voted against this asshole in '80 and '84 Go Vols Dec 2012 #25

SS Cuts kworkman Dec 2012 #31

NO ONE in Congress is going to stand up for any position that cuts ITS OWN support out from under patrice Dec 2012 #34

What fat salaries are on the table? mbperrin Dec 2012 #40

K&R Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #32

Rec, but it won't matter. SS and Medicare have ALWAYS been the true target. NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #35

I just tried to call the WH comments line to comment on the proposed cuts AnnieK401 Dec 2012 #37

I called my Senator (Wyden/D-OR), who MoveOn says is "waivering". 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #39

The government has borrowed nearly $2.7 trillion as of 2011 from the SS trust fund. progressoid Dec 2012 #42

Your post is very welcome. Thank you! Purely criminal behavior to borrow this HUGE sum and then have In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #49

Such "borrowing" with no intention to ever pay it back was begun by LBJ, expanded by Nixon, and AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #56

Obviously, if we are not going to pay back one grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #66

Although you are techinically correct humbled_opinion Dec 2012 #43

K & R rustydog Dec 2012 #44

knr Coyotl Dec 2012 #46

The bastards are literally taking food out of my mouth! Stonepounder Dec 2012 #47

Someone should tell Obama Autumn Dec 2012 #53

Any cuts, at all, to Social Security and if Dems have a hand in it...means TheProgressive Dec 2012 #54

I agree decayincl Dec 2012 #58

The problem is that neither party wants to pay back the $2.7 trillion surplus which has been loaned Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #59

+1,000,000. This is the crux of the problem - the ultrarich unwilling to pay back what they owe SS! reformist2 Dec 2012 #65

. blkmusclmachine Dec 2012 #61

k&r avaistheone1 Dec 2012 #63

All of this on-line bickering and discussing dotymed Dec 2012 #67

I am with you on the occupy everything. I am ready nt bonniebgood Dec 2012 #68

DURec blackspade Dec 2012 #69

Here is what I understand.. Elmergantry Dec 2012 #70