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In reply to the discussion: ok, no more crap about "obama caving". it's called a trial balloon. COMPLAIN TO CONGRESS. [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)48. What did I gain personally ...
2.6% increase in my take-home pay, I kept my Bush era tax cuts, and the generalized security found under the SALT Treaty.
What did others, I know, benefit? Well ... my neighbor continued to be ablke to eat as his U/C was extended; my wife's cousin could continue in his military career, without having to lie about whom he loved.
And what was the trade-off? The wealthy got to keep their Bush era tax cuts ... and a bunch of liberals got their feelings hurt because President Obama didn't appear tough enough.
All well worth it to me and many I know.
The pukes were sweating and now they won't be you fuckers have guaranteed them huge wins again 2014. And guaranteed them the ability to hold SS hostage every year...
Under what analysis have you arrived at this? Democrats and President Obama are STILL trusted more with the economy and the direction of the country (see: Pew Research), Republicans are STILL seen as obstructionist (see: same study), and any progress will be seen as Democrats moving the ball in the face of weakening gop obstruction.
Those likely to vote Democratic in 2014, excepting the same hair on fire Democrats that are threatening to 2010 us, again; are still going to vote Democratic. Those likely to vote gop in 2014 will still vote gop. And, the same segment of the gop that crossed over to vote Democratic will likely cross over again ... to rid themselves of the teaparty nuts.
God so fucking stupid it hurts.
Yes ... Yes, it does. But I prefer to call it ignorance (just don't know).
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ok, no more crap about "obama caving". it's called a trial balloon. COMPLAIN TO CONGRESS. [View all]
unblock
Dec 2012
OP
Hmm. I'm not experienced with people sending trial balloons that they'll refuse to actually execute
MannyGoldstein
Dec 2012
#13
They fully know about SS. What we need to do is elect more progressive Democrats.
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#25
This is not as controversial a interpretation as it may sound. President Obama's senior advisor...
Poll_Blind
Dec 2012
#40
good on you, thanks! i know some du'ers certainly are quite the actual activist
unblock
Dec 2012
#44
The pom pom section was preaching high and low that what turned out to be "the cliff"
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#92
Yet another "wonderful" "wonderful" instance of eleventy dimensional chess..
truedelphi
Dec 2012
#63
no. Congress is Republican held. Obama is the one who needs to stand for us!
robinlynne
Dec 2012
#69
Let Congress see what the will of the people looks like. Phone now! Phone often!
WHEN CRABS ROAR
Dec 2012
#70
They always do this. There is a cadre of dedicated Obama haters who flood this place
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#79
Quit complaining about us complaining by saying that we need to make him do it.
Fearless
Dec 2012
#82
I say we act as if that was his proposal and to apply public pressure NOW!
fascisthunter
Dec 2012
#84