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In reply to the discussion: 'Democrats Lost Them': Here's Why 2020 Biden Voters Sat Out The 2024 Election (Rolling Stone) [View all]Rob H.
(5,773 posts)38. That statement flies in the face of reality
The time spent by the Harris campaign to woo moderate Republican voters was time frittered away during a campaign with no time to waste; Republicans, moderate or not, were never going to vote for Harris, anyway. Hitting the campaign trail with Cheney cost Democrats time, money, and resources that would've been better spent elsewhere.
Liz Cheney Was an Electoral Fiasco for Kamala Harris
Conservatives backed Trump by bigger percentages than in 2020. And time spent with Cheney prevented Harris from reaching out to the voters she needed.
John Nichols
(...)
This reality is most apparent in the election results from Ripon. The east-central Wisconsin city where abolitionists, land reformers, and utopian socialists founded the Republican Party in 1854 seemed ripe for a cross-party appeal. Ripon has been a Republican stronghold for 170 years, but the city is also a college town that in the past has shown a good measure of enthusiasm for Democrats such as Barack Obama. But thats not how things played out on Election Day.
On November 5, Trump won 53.8 percent of the vote (2,097 ballots) in the city of Ripon, while 45 percent (1,753 ballots) voted for Harris.
That was a worse finish for the Democratic ticket than in 2020, when Joe Biden won 46.6 percent (1,820 ballots), while 51.7 percent (2,019 ballots) voted for Trump.
(...)
Every day was precious, and every signal sent to potential voters was significant. The days spent with Cheney, and the resources expended to promote endorsements from neoconservative Republicans, cost the Democrats in significant ways. They sent a signal to potential Democratic voters, many of who recalled the Iraq War and other Cheney projects, that the focus of the campaign was on outreach to the right, They ate up time that could have been spent campaigning in union halls in working-class communities with figures such as United Auto Workers union president Shawn Fain and Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. They burned up time that could have been devoted to sincere, if difficult, conversations about Gaza. They foreclosed opportunities to reach out to Latino communities in swing states. The list goes on and on.
But the bottom line is constant: Every minute that Kamala Harris spent with Liz Cheney was a colossal waste of the candidates time.
Conservatives backed Trump by bigger percentages than in 2020. And time spent with Cheney prevented Harris from reaching out to the voters she needed.
John Nichols
(...)
This reality is most apparent in the election results from Ripon. The east-central Wisconsin city where abolitionists, land reformers, and utopian socialists founded the Republican Party in 1854 seemed ripe for a cross-party appeal. Ripon has been a Republican stronghold for 170 years, but the city is also a college town that in the past has shown a good measure of enthusiasm for Democrats such as Barack Obama. But thats not how things played out on Election Day.
On November 5, Trump won 53.8 percent of the vote (2,097 ballots) in the city of Ripon, while 45 percent (1,753 ballots) voted for Harris.
That was a worse finish for the Democratic ticket than in 2020, when Joe Biden won 46.6 percent (1,820 ballots), while 51.7 percent (2,019 ballots) voted for Trump.
(...)
Every day was precious, and every signal sent to potential voters was significant. The days spent with Cheney, and the resources expended to promote endorsements from neoconservative Republicans, cost the Democrats in significant ways. They sent a signal to potential Democratic voters, many of who recalled the Iraq War and other Cheney projects, that the focus of the campaign was on outreach to the right, They ate up time that could have been spent campaigning in union halls in working-class communities with figures such as United Auto Workers union president Shawn Fain and Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. They burned up time that could have been devoted to sincere, if difficult, conversations about Gaza. They foreclosed opportunities to reach out to Latino communities in swing states. The list goes on and on.
But the bottom line is constant: Every minute that Kamala Harris spent with Liz Cheney was a colossal waste of the candidates time.
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'Democrats Lost Them': Here's Why 2020 Biden Voters Sat Out The 2024 Election (Rolling Stone) [View all]
highplainsdem
Apr 2025
OP
Yep...that's exactly it. Racism on full. Now...those asshat voters have Trump.
Bengus81
Apr 2025
#17
Biden saved our economy after a pandemic. We had the best recovery of any nation.
travelingthrulife
Apr 2025
#116
People will cover up their racism and sexism with a paper towel if they have to. nt
Jit423
Apr 2025
#8
Whether this survey is accurate or not, what it says in d the American public are a bunch
JohnSJ
Apr 2025
#10
Didn't matter either way except to overly online people looking for an excuse to let Trump win
emulatorloo
Apr 2025
#67
People are looking for reasons to vote for someone not just voting against the other guy.
MichMan
Apr 2025
#65
Nah, these Non-Voters are looking for excuses. Unfortunately they are going to find out what a mistake
emulatorloo
Apr 2025
#71
Agree, but if it's close again I bet there will still be plenty of effort to get them back
thought crime
Apr 2025
#85
Bull. I have voted since 1968 and have yet to see a "perfect" candidate or one who addressed
LoisB
Apr 2025
#47
Exactly. The fiction that Harris' people ran a perfect campaign, as has been claimed here repeatedly
Rob H.
Apr 2025
#97
IF there are free and open elections again, the Republicans will never win again. /nt
artemisia1
Apr 2025
#64
It is never a choice between a perfect candidate and pure evil and incompetence (although this election came close).
waterwatcher123
Apr 2025
#74
Me me me me me me. I don't believe these claims to be engaged with politics and yet both sides same.
betsuni
Apr 2025
#81
So it is all the Democrats' fault people didn't vote, voted third party, or voted GOP.
valleyrogue
Apr 2025
#82
"...she left early after Harris failed to address the issues that mattered most to her."
LudwigPastorius
Apr 2025
#88
Universal healthcare for one, start there. Getting sick is USA's number 1 reason for bankruptcy.
Passages
Apr 2025
#110
After reading about the horse trading going on and the procedural hurdles
Keepthesoulalive
Apr 2025
#122
I'm old, I was taught to study and remember the past so we don't repeat the bad parts
questionseverything
Apr 2025
#135