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TheProgressive

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93. Bullshit...no Democrat ever 'offers' to harm SS as a trial balloon.

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:58 PM

Dec 2012

Obama is doing no different than republicans holding the debt ceiling hostage.

This is very serious and serious for the Dem party.

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ok, no more crap about "obama caving". it's called a trial balloon. COMPLAIN TO CONGRESS. [View all] unblock Dec 2012 OP

we'll judge when we see the final wording samsingh Dec 2012 #1

he did just say no, a few times. unblock Dec 2012 #8

I called in 2011 when they talked about it in the debt ceiling deal. Liberalynn Dec 2012 #45

i'm fine with the 400k however samsingh Dec 2012 #89

You might wait for the final wording, but read some of the "I KNEW IT" posts. 11 Bravo Dec 2012 #19

Neither base was ever going to be happy frazzled Dec 2012 #35

compromise went out the window with the cheney-bush penchant for samsingh Dec 2012 #90

right. nothing is carved in stone watch the sky Dec 2012 #2

So you think the Repugs will TURN DOWN Obama's offer re SS? MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #3

Congress has their answering devices on. Why not call WH and Congress? Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #4

Called my senators to register opinion... sanatanadharma Dec 2012 #5

What 'negotiating skills?' He has none leftstreet Dec 2012 #6

oh, sorry, yeah, he's completely indistinguishable from shrub. unblock Dec 2012 #11

Nonsense. Bush got everything he wanted n/t leftstreet Dec 2012 #18

congress was and remains much to the right of where we would prefer unblock Dec 2012 #47

Bingo! n/t kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #76

Stop it! ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #12

What has he negotiated for us? leftstreet Dec 2012 #16

i vaguely recall something about health something or other. unblock Dec 2012 #22

Mandated health in$urance. He once opposed that leftstreet Dec 2012 #24

Mandated health insurance ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #38

With no public option, which he once supported Doctor_J Dec 2012 #60

The cost of my medicare supplemental has risen pscot Dec 2012 #72

I remember how some predicted that JoePhilly Dec 2012 #26

No, what we predicted was that he would oppose it, which he did for nearly sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #55

Lieberman, was more responsible for repeal of dadt than Obama, hate to say. julian09 Dec 2012 #78

If you are sincere in your question ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #33

Elderly gays and veterans will cheer loudly from Food Banks leftstreet Dec 2012 #37

First ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #42

I'll play: NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #80

Good god "the list" is back n/t durablend Dec 2012 #83

Yeah, I wouldn't read it either. nt Bobbie Jo Dec 2012 #87

Oh for fuck's sake. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #88

'Encouraged. Pursued. Pushed. Supported.' Jesus Christ leftstreet Dec 2012 #91

What the hell would you like him to do? NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #94

Like he used that pulpit for the Public Option? leftstreet Dec 2012 #95

Like he used it for all the fucking things I posted about. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #97

Those 'prizes for advances in consumer technology' leftstreet Dec 2012 #98

Yep, just ignore the 200+ things I posted. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #100

Pfffft, petty details. Bobbie Jo Dec 2012 #99

thanks for this list! unblock Dec 2012 #101

thank you barbtries Dec 2012 #7

Exactly!!! ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #9

Nonsense aandegoons Dec 2012 #10

what exactly did he have in hand? unblock Dec 2012 #15

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #23

Yep pretend losing again is winning. aandegoons Dec 2012 #34

What did I gain personally ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #48

Because with that "more" ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #20

We are here because of 2010 aandegoons Dec 2012 #36

Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #49

Hmm. I'm not experienced with people sending trial balloons that they'll refuse to actually execute MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #13

not much of a trial balloon if it's already a commitment.... unblock Dec 2012 #17

One thousand Recs !!! No Compromise Dec 2012 #14

They fully know about SS. What we need to do is elect more progressive Democrats. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #25

I don't think Obama is caving...I think he wanted to cut SS all along. forestpath Dec 2012 #21

Obama hates America JoePhilly Dec 2012 #29

Don't put words in my mouth just because you have no argument. forestpath Dec 2012 #41

+1 leftstreet Dec 2012 #32

This is not as controversial a interpretation as it may sound. President Obama's senior advisor... Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #40

Exactly right. I said that from the very beginning. If he plethoro Dec 2012 #57

Seriously? progressoid Dec 2012 #27

good on you, thanks! i know some du'ers certainly are quite the actual activist unblock Dec 2012 #44

unblock, we are an open forum. We can voice our opinions without roguevalley Dec 2012 #28

it's just a request. a psa. unblock Dec 2012 #43

Let Obama know how we feel? WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2012 #68

call it what you like, it's caving. period . end of story. bowens43 Dec 2012 #30

He apparently lied to Pelosi & Durbin last week Doctor_J Dec 2012 #31

Here's what I think happened democrattotheend Dec 2012 #46

Very astute ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #50

People are too cavalier about the cliff democrattotheend Dec 2012 #54

A lot more will be hurt if he cuts benefits Doctor_J Dec 2012 #65

The pom pom section was preaching high and low that what turned out to be "the cliff" TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #92

good thread * Redfairen Dec 2012 #39

I'd reck this a million times if I could loyalkydem Dec 2012 #51

Thank you;... WCGreen Dec 2012 #52

Why haven't we heard anything from the president? Doctor_J Dec 2012 #58

fiscal cliff rso Dec 2012 #53

Exactly. Owl Dec 2012 #77

Your statements rtracey Dec 2012 #56

You're new here, rtracey Doctor_J Dec 2012 #59

and obama's detractors have their own chain. unblock Dec 2012 #71

Listen to Doctor_J, rtracey kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #81

Trial balloon or not adieu Dec 2012 #61

sounds good to me! unblock Dec 2012 #73

My Rep. is a tea partier (Daniel Webster) One of my Senators is also (Rubio) AnnieK401 Dec 2012 #62

thanks for trying. you can also call democrats on key committees unblock Dec 2012 #74

Yet another "wonderful" "wonderful" instance of eleventy dimensional chess.. truedelphi Dec 2012 #63

I have been sending one every day for a week! Rocky888 Dec 2012 #64

great! keep it up! unblock Dec 2012 #75

Absolutely BainsBane Dec 2012 #66

Let's repeal the Bill of Rights. FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #67

no. Congress is Republican held. Obama is the one who needs to stand for us! robinlynne Dec 2012 #69

Let Congress see what the will of the people looks like. Phone now! Phone often! WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2012 #70

They always do this. There is a cadre of dedicated Obama haters who flood this place MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #79

Quit complaining about us complaining by saying that we need to make him do it. Fearless Dec 2012 #82

I say we act as if that was his proposal and to apply public pressure NOW! fascisthunter Dec 2012 #84

Some of the people on this board look for opportunity to bash the President. They can't wait to find Pisces Dec 2012 #85

A voice of reason mcar Dec 2012 #86

Bullshit...no Democrat ever 'offers' to harm SS as a trial balloon. TheProgressive Dec 2012 #93

Wrong. It's correctly called caving. Owl Dec 2012 #96