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7. That gun crime may be down over a long stretch doesn't mean it is under control

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:55 PM

Dec 2012

Perhaps you can accept hundreds of gun murders every year in a city like Chicago and say, ho hum, it's not "out of control" because it's a downward trend over 30 years. I disagree: it's an epidemic and absolutely out of control. "Not really 'out of control,'" you say? Come to Chicago and go hang out for a few days in Austin, in West Englewood, in East Garfield Park and tell me about how your nice narrative of decline in rates means gun violence is "under control." It's not. It's out of control. I stand by my point. Your additional narrative about gentrification is equally beside the point.

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Let's be fair: the circumstances here are more shocking than the slow but steady destruction alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #3

urban gun violence is actually way down in most cities; not really 'out of control'. and low-income HiPointDem Dec 2012 #6

That gun crime may be down over a long stretch doesn't mean it is under control alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #7

compared to what? violence in general & gun violence in particular is down in most cities since HiPointDem Dec 2012 #8

Once again, hundreds of gun murders a year is not a situation that's under control alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #9

"out of control" implies rising, not falling, rates of violence. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #10

i posted about this very thing several years ago. madrchsod Dec 2012 #4

I think you make a good point customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #5