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57. Judge Dugan was arrested without presenting case to grand jury-this was a stunt to whip MAGA faithful into a frenzy
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 05:35 PM
Apr 2025

I am a corporate lawyer but I do know basic federal criminal procedure. Judge Dugan was arrested on a magistrate warrant and the case had NOT been presented to a grand jury. Before this case can go to trial, this case has to be presented to and voted on by a grand jury. The arrest on Friday was a stunt to "whip the MAGA faithful into a frenzy." One can arrest a suspect without a grand jury indictment but normally there has to be good reason for such arrest

New in PN: Arresting judges is a 5-alarm escalation

"It’s not just that Dugan was arrested, but how she was arrested. The whole point was to cause a scene. There’s no allegation she was attempting to evade arrest, but the FBI still forced a sitting judge to do a perp walk at her place of work."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-04-28T13:24:43.255Z

New in PN: Arresting judges is a 5-alarm escalation

"It’s not just that Dugan was arrested, but how she was arrested. The whole point was to cause a scene. There’s no allegation she was attempting to evade arrest, but the FBI still forced a sitting judge to do a perp walk at her place of work."



https://www.publicnotice.co/p/trump-bondi-arresting-judges-hannah-dugan

It’s not just that Dugan was arrested, but also how she was arrested. The whole point was to cause a scene. She was arrested Friday morning in the parking lot of the Milwaukee County Courthouse, complete with handcuffs. There’s no allegation she was a flight risk or was attempting to evade arrest, but the FBI still forced a sitting judge to do a perp walk at her place of work.

Additionally, Dugan was arrested pursuant to a criminal complaint signed by a federal magistrate judge. There’s nothing improper about that as such, but for felonies in federal court, prosecutors must convene a grand jury and present evidence. Only if the grand jury returns an indictment can someone be prosecuted.

Going before a grand jury isn’t a nicety or a minor procedural step. The Fifth Amendment requires it. Arresting Dugan before convening a grand jury was intended to get flashy headlines and whip the MAGA faithful into a frenzy. Even if a grand jury declines to indict Dugan, the administration has succeeded in creating a climate of fear and suspicion.

Recall that although Trump faced 88 charges in four criminal cases for much worse things than what Dugan is accused of, he was always charged by indictment after presentation to a grand jury and allowed to turn himself in. Here he is in Georgia, where he faced 13 felony counts for trying to overturn the 202 election. Here he is in New York, where he faced — and was convicted of — 34 felonies related to falsifying business records to hide his hush payments to Stormy Daniels. New York state was so solicitous of Trump that he didn’t even have to have his mug shot taken. When he voluntarily surrendered in Miami for the classified documents case, he wasn’t handcuffed.,,,,,

It will be interesting to see a grand jury would indict this judge on the actual facts

One hurdle prosecutors might have in securing an indictment against Dugan was that ICE had an administrative warrant, not a judicial warrant, for Flores-Ruiz. The criminal complaint obscures this, referring only to a “warrant” or an “arrest warrant” in most places. The only time an administrative warrant is mentioned is when the complaint quotes Dugan saying it.

As much as the administration would like it to be otherwise, those administrative warrants aren’t the same as judicial warrants. Judicial warrants are signed by a federal or state judge or magistrate and must be complied with as long as they are valid. Administrative warrants — also known as immigration warrants — are issued by administrative agencies such as ICE and signed by an immigration judge. Despite also being called judges, immigration judges are not part of the judicial branch. They are appointed by the attorney general and are part of the executive branch.

I wonder if this case will ever be presented to a grand jury,

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Statement of Senator Tammy Baldwin LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #1
The judge should be praised for helping the person avoidTrump's outsourced concentration camps in foreign prisons. wnylib Apr 2025 #28
If D_Master81 Apr 2025 #36
While I ForgedCrank Apr 2025 #41
She ABSOLUTELY DiverDave Apr 2025 #46
Judges are ForgedCrank Apr 2025 #49
I think that you might be misunderstanding the legal situation of this case. wnylib Apr 2025 #55
Unfortunately, I am ForgedCrank Apr 2025 #56
Judge Dugan should have been a Supreme Court Justice bronxiteforever Apr 2025 #2
" .. some Republicans with cheers .." Stupid, stupid people. Bo Zarts Apr 2025 #3
they will pay in the long run rurallib Apr 2025 #13
'"and some Republicans with cheers" GusBob Apr 2025 #4
Is this the same administration whose leader pardoned and freed all of the convicted January 6 criminals? Mister Ed Apr 2025 #5
What are the Democrats going to do about it? I'm sort of tired of all the talk. Raven Apr 2025 #6
What have they got besides talk? We haven't got the numbers to do anything. Vinca Apr 2025 #7
Well, I guess they'll have to think outside the box for a change. Raven Apr 2025 #9
when repukes are out of power they cause all kinds of hell for Dems Skittles Apr 2025 #47
Somehow the Turtle was able to gum up the works pretty well Doremus Apr 2025 #19
How did the Republicans gain so much ground with their bald-faced lies? hadEnuf Apr 2025 #23
It's called Focksnooze (Fox News). Mr. Evil Apr 2025 #38
GET ARRESTED NOW !! Stop some congress from doing some shit, stand in the way and make more noise. If that's all we uponit7771 Apr 2025 #30
Don't worry. Schumer will probably draft a sternly worded letter... Sky Jewels Apr 2025 #21
IDK, maybe we should ask Garland, he can be found eating milk and cookies while watching reruns of Mr Rogers ImNotGod Apr 2025 #35
Republicans hate democracy. Passages Apr 2025 #8
Really? JBTaurus83 Apr 2025 #10
If he can arrest state judges, he can arrest Congress members, too. lindysalsagal Apr 2025 #11
Which is why they are all toeing the line. progressoid Apr 2025 #12
Bob Menendez was arrested and convicted while in the Senate MichMan Apr 2025 #52
Rebel Iamscrewed Apr 2025 #14
Was he in her court. Then he was under the control of the Judges court & jurisdiction. Historic NY Apr 2025 #15
THIS is the issue Mossfern Apr 2025 #17
Activist Judges sabotaging Trump's agenda? patphil Apr 2025 #16
We had a coup attempt in January 2021. The coup folks are now in power and they are doing what they want. jalan48 Apr 2025 #18
If Biden hadn't appointed Merrick fucking Garland, Sky Jewels Apr 2025 #22
Exactly. The fact that Garland never called it a coup attempt was telling. jalan48 Apr 2025 #25
We should remember JustAnotherGen Apr 2025 #33
And to think, Hornedfrog2000 Apr 2025 #20
"Cheers" and "Ferocity." Yep. Civil War Evolve Dammit Apr 2025 #24
Is he dead yet? Is he dead yet? Is he dead yet? Blue Owl Apr 2025 #26
I am beginning to think he is a wind up doll. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2025 #54
The end of three equal branches of government. Emile Apr 2025 #27
If the criminal arrest of a judge stands, we all better leave the country. Before we are forced to stay. rich7862 Apr 2025 #29
arrest patel moonshinegnomie Apr 2025 #31
WI law enforcement has no jurisdiction outside of WI. nt kelly1mm Apr 2025 #34
as i said,laws dont matter anymore under herr shitgibbon moonshinegnomie Apr 2025 #37
"Kash Patel, in a now-deleted post..." Grins Apr 2025 #32
Ann Jacobs - illustratiing that this is BS! Lokee11 Apr 2025 #39
Thanks orangecrush Apr 2025 #40
Try to keep this in mind, Derrick... dchill Apr 2025 #42
Maddow Blog-As FBI arrests judge in Wisconsin, AG Pam Bondi directs new threats at the judiciary LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #43
Here's hoping Bondi and Kash end up in jail for long, long stints for sedition. travelingthrulife Apr 2025 #45
Republicans are cheering it. travelingthrulife Apr 2025 #44
Every senator that voted and confirmed these two and others in his cabinet should look in the mirror........... turbinetree Apr 2025 #48
K&R UTUSN Apr 2025 #50
Activist judges acting to sabotage 47's agenda vapor2 Apr 2025 #51
Sure 77 million people voted for Krasnov kkmarie Apr 2025 #53
Judge Dugan was arrested without presenting case to grand jury-this was a stunt to whip MAGA faithful into a frenzy LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #57
Reality TV "justice" orangecrush Apr 2025 #58
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