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HiPointDem

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7. i can't see any scenario in which the party breaks out of those constraints except if someone's
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:29 AM
Dec 2012

financing it for their own purposes. money is just too dominant. and finance capital is global now & has penetrated even into supposedly communist countries - it was outside capital that financed the rise of china, for example.

maybe an individual, or maybe a faction in an intra-party split. but it still would be more talk than action, because it always comes back to what capital wants.

i think the malcom x speech is apropos, but where is the "outside" in this scenario?

How many people here Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #1
Most of remember people like YOU saying "don't believe what you're hearing" Ken Burch Dec 2012 #2
People like me? Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #8
They keep enemies lists and have long memories, Summer alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #10
Oh, great. Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #11
I said "people LIKE you"...not necessarily you yourself. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #13
That's part of the problem Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #14
the benefit exemption WAS trivial when you consider all that was lost to get it. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #16
Yeah, don't vote in 2014. It worked out SO VERY WELL in 2010! CakeGrrl Dec 2012 #3
I didn't say "people shouldn't vote in 2014". Ken Burch Dec 2012 #5
how many automatic defenders will respond to your poll? but let me say that personally, it's HiPointDem Dec 2012 #4
The only chance there will ever be to break out of those constraints is for our party to DEFY them. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #6
i can't see any scenario in which the party breaks out of those constraints except if someone's HiPointDem Dec 2012 #7
Other-I'll accept whatever happens. Which is a whole lot different then defend whatever happens. Kaleva Dec 2012 #9
Woud he still be a Democrat ozone_man Dec 2012 #12
He'd be a moderate Republican. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #15
Chained CPI, as Obama proposes it, is a means-test bhikkhu Dec 2012 #19
I certainly won't kick and scream over chained CPI... nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #17
I'm confident that he will make a deal we can be proud of bhikkhu Dec 2012 #18
There will be PLENTY here that do that durablend Dec 2012 #20
There won't be a deal because the baggers will never accept it. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #21
In answer to your question, Democrats win only when they act like Democrats. forestpath Dec 2012 #22
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