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eppur_se_muova

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6. In a parliamentary system, would this have led more quickly to serious consequences ? Like a "no confidence" vote ?
Sun May 4, 2025, 07:37 AM
May 2025

Americans tend to think of parliamentary gov'ts as weak and unstable. But maybe the American system -- particularly the Imperial POTUS -- is a little *too* stable for our own good.

I don't think parliaments stopped either Hitler or Mussolini, so there's that.




And what could provide a way out ? Impeachment by a minority would be a sure road to disaster, as Uglicans would hold impeachment hearings every day. TBOMK there is no such thing as a popular Federal referendum for impeachment; do we need one ?

Obviously, getting rid of the Electoral College would be a BIG step forward, as Uglicans rely on it to win despite their overall unpopularity. And getting rid of gerrymandering is more complicated than most people realize. Personally, I think only highly fractured, randomly generated districts could ever be sufficiently proof against such tampering -- and new (random) districts for *each* election might eventually prove necessary.

Maybe the ancient Athenians had it right -- bring on the ostrakoi.

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In a parliamentary system, would this have led more quickly to serious consequences ? Like a "no confidence" vote ? eppur_se_muova May 2025 #6
I have a young man in The Netherlands who is like once was called a pen pal. elocs May 2025 #7
Prettt sure they recognize this for what it is. SheltieLover May 2025 #8
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Not 2015. Stop focusing on Trump and look at his support system: it goes much farther back JHB May 2025 #15
Yes I am aware it goes farther back- I am talking about the recent events that caused it Meowmee May 2025 #20
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JHB & DetlefK Myrddin May 2025 #22
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