A Gallup Poll taken the day after the shootings reportedly ........

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17. All of us who knewVinamvets and encouraged them to talk

knew that our government was run by a bunch of rabidly anti communist liars and had been for a long time. We all knew that Vietnam was a war that should never have happened, that once they'd booted the French out, that should have been the end of their colonization by a foreign power.

Kent State was a symptom, paranoid men who knew they were in the wrong and terrified because they knew they'd lost control of the young while control of their elders was just starting to slip.

That Gallup poll was taken right after the shooting. However, that shooting, once Middle America had a chance to remember those pictures and what they meant--squeaky clean white kids being shot by the government--it had the opposite effect of what men like Nixon and Ohio Gov. Rhodes had intended. When I think of turning points, I think of Kent State as a big one, but it took a while to sink in.