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12. At this point, if I see a perfectly punctuated paper...

Wed May 7, 2025, 04:31 PM

May 2025

I suspect AI.

Now, that's not fair... I just finished a class where 10 students worked really hard, followed the instructions, and used my feedback to improve.

But then there was the one who had bullet points and bold headings in every discussion post (sure signs of AI).

Oh, well. My paycheck is perfectly punctuated.

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Typical example of college writing I see [View all] Coventina May 2025 OP

Writes like Trump speaks Demovictory9 May 2025 #1

"You shouldn't write if you can't write." - Hemingway sop May 2025 #2

you have to write and write and write to develop good writing skills Demovictory9 May 2025 #30

I agree, however... Shipwack May 2025 #48

Hands down, the writing problem I have seen most over the decades... Orrex May 2025 #135

write and write and write Norrrm May 2025 #121

Writing is like playing a musical instrument: first learn the basics, then practice, practice, practice. sop May 2025 #132

Exactly what I was thinking. I will say that woodsprite May 2025 #6

I can only speak for myself, of course, but as a college professor Coventina May 2025 #10

I require drafts tishaLA May 2025 #125

Don't know the actual situation, but that pings a question for me: Overloaded, poorly-paid adjuncts? JHB May 2025 #13

My teacher friend jokingly says that "adjunct" is Latin for "no benefits". LudwigPastorius May 2025 #120

I taught writing as an adjunct for a long time LearnedHand May 2025 #39

Curious whether these were professors or adjuncts. LisaM May 2025 #69

It has been a mix of full tenured profs, associate profs, and adjuncts. woodsprite May 2025 #109

Post removed Post removed May 2025 #92

Really? What about it makes it "clearly" so? JoseBalow May 2025 #96

Your use is fair use, per USA copyright law. See post 103. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #107

Ya, I'm not worried about it JoseBalow May 2025 #115

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2025 #123

I used to read snowybirdie May 2025 #3

Such a shame! calimary May 2025 #62

Courses so long ago I can't remember: Torchlight May 2025 #4

I could not agree with you more. I stopped mentoring Master's Degree candidates for that very reason... hlthe2b May 2025 #5

Very true. viva la May 2025 #14

an attempt to expand text-speak into an analysis Skittles May 2025 #7

u wite? Hired. rubbersole May 2025 #25

Text-speak has something to do with it, as does seeing so much bad writing in social media posts. highplainsdem May 2025 #38

Every teacher this kid came into contact with, from parents through 12th grade, failed him/her. LoisB May 2025 #8

This clown was probably an "honors student" as his/her high school Tarzanrock May 2025 #9

seen 1st hand. entering college student placed remedial level. "but I was my high school valedictorian!" Demovictory9 May 2025 #27

yes markie May 2025 #11

At this point, if I see a perfectly punctuated paper... viva la May 2025 #12

That's painful to read. greatauntoftriplets May 2025 #15

No punctuation? Bettie May 2025 #16

Yeah, that was remarkable. Someone doesn't start omitting all punctuation suddenly one allegorical oracle May 2025 #28

Yes. Some were better. Coventina May 2025 #31

I will admit to at least once Bettie May 2025 #47

Holy cats. mahina May 2025 #17

As an editor, I am lenient on grammar and syntax. yardwork May 2025 #18

by typical example, what percentage of say, 30 students peacebuzzard May 2025 #19

most unfortunately, then some international students, with English as 2nd language, write very well.. Demovictory9 May 2025 #29

I have taught English as a foreign language peacebuzzard May 2025 #83

I found an OED website article with a detailed explanation of the weirdness of English highplainsdem May 2025 #86

thanks for this I bookmarked. peacebuzzard May 2025 #131

A good 70% of them woulld be at or around this level. Coventina May 2025 #32

... SheltieLover May 2025 #65

those are not good percentages. peacebuzzard May 2025 #84

OMG no_hypocrisy May 2025 #20

That is heartbreakingly awful. Wow. ms liberty May 2025 #21

What I got in law school was better . . . marginally. Ms. Toad May 2025 #22

Good for you for going back to school! yardwork May 2025 #24

Overwhelmed probably isn't the only thing - Ms. Toad May 2025 #34

A late friend of mine decided to go to law school at age 50. DFW May 2025 #45

I've had lots of students in their 40s. Ms. Toad May 2025 #85

I am flabbergasted at all the stuff DENVERPOPS May 2025 #23

Some can't read well. There's a morning show host who constantly mispronounces allegorical oracle May 2025 #35

It is dismaying, though not suprising (n1): BadgerKid May 2025 #26

Game show damifino10 May 2025 #33

It's pretty bad these days sleroy49 May 2025 #36

That is nothing short of appalling DFW May 2025 #37

Given that we know it's a test, and given that first drafts are always full of errors that only editing time can help, ancianita May 2025 #40

This was not a timed test. Coventina May 2025 #42

Then any assignment that takes a week isn't an exam. You just called a summative content test an exam. ancianita May 2025 #93

Not sure why that's what's important but ok. Coventina May 2025 #94

After a 30-year break I went back to school in '93. madamesilverspurs May 2025 #41

What gets Rebl2 May 2025 #43

It is much more prevalent, starting when schools went online during COVID. Ms. Toad May 2025 #117

I graduated with an Engineering degree nearly 35 years ago MichMan May 2025 #129

So sad. littlemissmartypants May 2025 #44

I was in college around 5 years ago Hornedfrog2000 May 2025 #46

This is not by accident. CrispyQ May 2025 #49

I retired 12 Traildogbob May 2025 #50

I hate to be that person, but this post is a FERPA violation JCMach1 May 2025 #51

I am well aware of FERPA laws. Coventina May 2025 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #63

There is nothing in what I posted that can identify who the student is. Coventina May 2025 #66

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Assignments are not college records. n/t Coventina May 2025 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #72

Not according to the FERPA website. Coventina May 2025 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #89

It is not. Coventina May 2025 #91

You continue to make wild claims w no evidence (specifics fr a citation). You were flat out wrong on Copyright Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #114

Both educator and lawyer here - Ms. Toad May 2025 #112

Post removed Post removed May 2025 #122

Did you mean "As an administrator I would have you in my office..." Ron Green May 2025 #98

Do you have permission to post that? Orrex May 2025 #108

I took quick look at the wiki FERPA page. Pretty sure you'd have to identify the student, which did not happen. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #110

I'm very confident that you're correct Orrex May 2025 #118

I thought it was very funny! ShazzieB May 2025 #134

Class is in session JoseBalow May 2025 #116

😹 Thanks, this had me in tears... Meowmee May 2025 #128

Sadly, I think the problem is even more fundamental than not learning how to write . . . hatrack May 2025 #52

I am a high school graduate. I am also a veteran of a 40 year career as an advertising copywriter. Demobrat May 2025 #57

This student has a bright future in the republikan party...... lastlib May 2025 #53

I have to say that as a teacher of ELLs senseandsensibility May 2025 #54

I had a friend ask me to look over her son's resume. Demobrat May 2025 #55

The skeleton is there but the connections have wasted away /nt bucolic_frolic May 2025 #56

OMG!!! One run on incomprehensible sentence Chicagogrl1 May 2025 #58

Yes but it has been going on for as long as I have been teaching Meowmee May 2025 #60

I used to type up papers for college kids around 1970-1972 for cash. Midnight Writer May 2025 #71

Thank you for trying to improve people's writing, it is not an easy job. 😁 Meowmee May 2025 #113

I couldn't understand a single concept. Trueblue Texan May 2025 #61

Do any colleges or schools give Fs anymore? Ponietz May 2025 #64

How? Is entrance to college that easy nowadays? cayugafalls May 2025 #70

What did you do with this? LisaM May 2025 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #88

Since I feel you are threatening me, I will delete the text. Coventina May 2025 #90

Please don't. Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #130

Not applicable here. It is being published to educate DU members as to the level of education in the US Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #102

Not making money is NOT an excuse. Publishing excerpts for educational purposes is very definitely allowed Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #100

Thank you! I appreciate the clarification! Coventina May 2025 #119

You have made fair use of it without using it to libel or mock or identify Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #105

Wrong. See post 103 for the ACTUAL law, not your alarmist post. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #106

Maybe the student is the reincarnation of William Faulkner, or at least you know, the character Benji. NNadir May 2025 #75

"Students are not being taught how to write." ThreeNoSeep May 2025 #77

OK then "Students are not learning how to write" Coventina May 2025 #79

As an AP Exam Essay Reader/Scorer ScoutHikerDad May 2025 #80

I have been told that some, perhaps many, youngsters are being hectored for writing in a traditional style. OilemFirchen May 2025 #81

I'm so glad I left the US academy r�is�n_dubh May 2025 #82

I always felt that reading a lot helped people understand how to write well. But my impression is highplainsdem May 2025 #87

Kids are being taught today to night care about anything. They are taught by parents to not give a shit. Jit423 May 2025 #95

I tutored byth college level English and math Warpy May 2025 #97

Regarding text deleted Lulu KC May 2025 #99

Good. They are protected under the "fair use" provision of US copyright. I'm tempted to quote the exerpt here. Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #103

Okay, good Lulu KC May 2025 #104

Trashing this. RandySF May 2025 #111

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2025 #124

I didn't get the impression that an attack was what the OP was about. DFW May 2025 #127

I hate to admit it, but 50 years ago, no_hypocrisy May 2025 #126

In my opinion, good writing requires at least one teacher who cares. ecstatic May 2025 #133