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17. Holy cats.

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Wed May 7, 2025, 04:59 PM

May 2025

I thought Hawaii was bad.

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Typical example of college writing I see [View all] Coventina May 2025 OP

Writes like Trump speaks Demovictory9 May 2025 #1

"You shouldn't write if you can't write." - Hemingway sop May 2025 #2

you have to write and write and write to develop good writing skills Demovictory9 May 2025 #30

I agree, however... Shipwack May 2025 #48

Hands down, the writing problem I have seen most over the decades... Orrex May 2025 #135

write and write and write Norrrm May 2025 #121

Writing is like playing a musical instrument: first learn the basics, then practice, practice, practice. sop May 2025 #132

Exactly what I was thinking. I will say that woodsprite May 2025 #6

I can only speak for myself, of course, but as a college professor Coventina May 2025 #10

I require drafts tishaLA May 2025 #125

Don't know the actual situation, but that pings a question for me: Overloaded, poorly-paid adjuncts? JHB May 2025 #13

My teacher friend jokingly says that "adjunct" is Latin for "no benefits". LudwigPastorius May 2025 #120

I taught writing as an adjunct for a long time LearnedHand May 2025 #39

Curious whether these were professors or adjuncts. LisaM May 2025 #69

It has been a mix of full tenured profs, associate profs, and adjuncts. woodsprite May 2025 #109

Post removed Post removed May 2025 #92

Really? What about it makes it "clearly" so? JoseBalow May 2025 #96

Your use is fair use, per USA copyright law. See post 103. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #107

Ya, I'm not worried about it JoseBalow May 2025 #115

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2025 #123

I used to read snowybirdie May 2025 #3

Such a shame! calimary May 2025 #62

Courses so long ago I can't remember: Torchlight May 2025 #4

I could not agree with you more. I stopped mentoring Master's Degree candidates for that very reason... hlthe2b May 2025 #5

Very true. viva la May 2025 #14

an attempt to expand text-speak into an analysis Skittles May 2025 #7

u wite? Hired. rubbersole May 2025 #25

Text-speak has something to do with it, as does seeing so much bad writing in social media posts. highplainsdem May 2025 #38

Every teacher this kid came into contact with, from parents through 12th grade, failed him/her. LoisB May 2025 #8

This clown was probably an "honors student" as his/her high school Tarzanrock May 2025 #9

seen 1st hand. entering college student placed remedial level. "but I was my high school valedictorian!" Demovictory9 May 2025 #27

yes markie May 2025 #11

At this point, if I see a perfectly punctuated paper... viva la May 2025 #12

That's painful to read. greatauntoftriplets May 2025 #15

No punctuation? Bettie May 2025 #16

Yeah, that was remarkable. Someone doesn't start omitting all punctuation suddenly one allegorical oracle May 2025 #28

Yes. Some were better. Coventina May 2025 #31

I will admit to at least once Bettie May 2025 #47

Holy cats. mahina May 2025 #17

As an editor, I am lenient on grammar and syntax. yardwork May 2025 #18

by typical example, what percentage of say, 30 students peacebuzzard May 2025 #19

most unfortunately, then some international students, with English as 2nd language, write very well.. Demovictory9 May 2025 #29

I have taught English as a foreign language peacebuzzard May 2025 #83

I found an OED website article with a detailed explanation of the weirdness of English highplainsdem May 2025 #86

thanks for this I bookmarked. peacebuzzard May 2025 #131

A good 70% of them woulld be at or around this level. Coventina May 2025 #32

... SheltieLover May 2025 #65

those are not good percentages. peacebuzzard May 2025 #84

OMG no_hypocrisy May 2025 #20

That is heartbreakingly awful. Wow. ms liberty May 2025 #21

What I got in law school was better . . . marginally. Ms. Toad May 2025 #22

Good for you for going back to school! yardwork May 2025 #24

Overwhelmed probably isn't the only thing - Ms. Toad May 2025 #34

A late friend of mine decided to go to law school at age 50. DFW May 2025 #45

I've had lots of students in their 40s. Ms. Toad May 2025 #85

I am flabbergasted at all the stuff DENVERPOPS May 2025 #23

Some can't read well. There's a morning show host who constantly mispronounces allegorical oracle May 2025 #35

It is dismaying, though not suprising (n1): BadgerKid May 2025 #26

Game show damifino10 May 2025 #33

It's pretty bad these days sleroy49 May 2025 #36

That is nothing short of appalling DFW May 2025 #37

Given that we know it's a test, and given that first drafts are always full of errors that only editing time can help, ancianita May 2025 #40

This was not a timed test. Coventina May 2025 #42

Then any assignment that takes a week isn't an exam. You just called a summative content test an exam. ancianita May 2025 #93

Not sure why that's what's important but ok. Coventina May 2025 #94

After a 30-year break I went back to school in '93. madamesilverspurs May 2025 #41

What gets Rebl2 May 2025 #43

It is much more prevalent, starting when schools went online during COVID. Ms. Toad May 2025 #117

I graduated with an Engineering degree nearly 35 years ago MichMan May 2025 #129

So sad. littlemissmartypants May 2025 #44

I was in college around 5 years ago Hornedfrog2000 May 2025 #46

This is not by accident. CrispyQ May 2025 #49

I retired 12 Traildogbob May 2025 #50

I hate to be that person, but this post is a FERPA violation JCMach1 May 2025 #51

I am well aware of FERPA laws. Coventina May 2025 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #63

There is nothing in what I posted that can identify who the student is. Coventina May 2025 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #67

Assignments are not college records. n/t Coventina May 2025 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #72

Not according to the FERPA website. Coventina May 2025 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #89

It is not. Coventina May 2025 #91

You continue to make wild claims w no evidence (specifics fr a citation). You were flat out wrong on Copyright Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #114

Both educator and lawyer here - Ms. Toad May 2025 #112

Post removed Post removed May 2025 #122

Did you mean "As an administrator I would have you in my office..." Ron Green May 2025 #98

Do you have permission to post that? Orrex May 2025 #108

I took quick look at the wiki FERPA page. Pretty sure you'd have to identify the student, which did not happen. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #110

I'm very confident that you're correct Orrex May 2025 #118

I thought it was very funny! ShazzieB May 2025 #134

Class is in session JoseBalow May 2025 #116

😹 Thanks, this had me in tears... Meowmee May 2025 #128

Sadly, I think the problem is even more fundamental than not learning how to write . . . hatrack May 2025 #52

I am a high school graduate. I am also a veteran of a 40 year career as an advertising copywriter. Demobrat May 2025 #57

This student has a bright future in the republikan party...... lastlib May 2025 #53

I have to say that as a teacher of ELLs senseandsensibility May 2025 #54

I had a friend ask me to look over her son's resume. Demobrat May 2025 #55

The skeleton is there but the connections have wasted away /nt bucolic_frolic May 2025 #56

OMG!!! One run on incomprehensible sentence Chicagogrl1 May 2025 #58

Yes but it has been going on for as long as I have been teaching Meowmee May 2025 #60

I used to type up papers for college kids around 1970-1972 for cash. Midnight Writer May 2025 #71

Thank you for trying to improve people's writing, it is not an easy job. 😁 Meowmee May 2025 #113

I couldn't understand a single concept. Trueblue Texan May 2025 #61

Do any colleges or schools give Fs anymore? Ponietz May 2025 #64

How? Is entrance to college that easy nowadays? cayugafalls May 2025 #70

What did you do with this? LisaM May 2025 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #88

Since I feel you are threatening me, I will delete the text. Coventina May 2025 #90

Please don't. Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 May 2025 #130

Not applicable here. It is being published to educate DU members as to the level of education in the US Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #102

Not making money is NOT an excuse. Publishing excerpts for educational purposes is very definitely allowed Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #100

Thank you! I appreciate the clarification! Coventina May 2025 #119

You have made fair use of it without using it to libel or mock or identify Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #105

Wrong. See post 103 for the ACTUAL law, not your alarmist post. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #106

Maybe the student is the reincarnation of William Faulkner, or at least you know, the character Benji. NNadir May 2025 #75

"Students are not being taught how to write." ThreeNoSeep May 2025 #77

OK then "Students are not learning how to write" Coventina May 2025 #79

As an AP Exam Essay Reader/Scorer ScoutHikerDad May 2025 #80

I have been told that some, perhaps many, youngsters are being hectored for writing in a traditional style. OilemFirchen May 2025 #81

I'm so glad I left the US academy r�is�n_dubh May 2025 #82

I always felt that reading a lot helped people understand how to write well. But my impression is highplainsdem May 2025 #87

Kids are being taught today to night care about anything. They are taught by parents to not give a shit. Jit423 May 2025 #95

I tutored byth college level English and math Warpy May 2025 #97

Regarding text deleted Lulu KC May 2025 #99

Good. They are protected under the "fair use" provision of US copyright. I'm tempted to quote the exerpt here. Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #103

Okay, good Lulu KC May 2025 #104

Trashing this. RandySF May 2025 #111

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2025 #124

I didn't get the impression that an attack was what the OP was about. DFW May 2025 #127

I hate to admit it, but 50 years ago, no_hypocrisy May 2025 #126

In my opinion, good writing requires at least one teacher who cares. ecstatic May 2025 #133