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paulkienitz

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20. "AI" is not just another Silicon Valley gold rush Ponzi-oid investment bubble...
Sun May 11, 2025, 09:51 AM
May 2025

...but it is mostly that in the short term.

Long term, it actually is a legitimate threat to human survival, just like in crappy B science fiction.

Even longer term, it may be the key to a posthuman super-civilization as far beyond Star Trek as that is beyond bronze age war bands pillaging early farmers.

Both the perils and the opportunities are far beyond anything you'd think possible from today's bumbling artificial idiots. Unfortunately its progress is being guided by some of the most irresponsible assholes alive.

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What happens when AI starts using itself as its source material? Ocelot II May 2025 #1
Yes, indeed. MineralMan May 2025 #5
What could happen is what's called "model collapse" - which there have been warnings about for years: highplainsdem May 2025 #17
Over multiple iterations the errors get larger and the facts become overwhelmed. erronis May 2025 #24
Wikipedia still is suspect. Nothing has really changed over the years. n/t valleyrogue May 2025 #2
It's been years since I found a suspect source. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #10
Wikipedia BeerBarrelPolka May 2025 #13
Point something out. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #14
How about this? TheRickles May 2025 #22
Okay you may have something there, but it also points out the revision process restores a lot of it Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #27
I still occasionally find circular Wikipedia source citations muriel_volestrangler May 2025 #37
Can happen. Complex subject matter is difficult to master and difficult to untangle. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #42
The professional organization of practitioners of this therapy gave up trying to influence Wikipedia. TheRickles May 2025 #39
Such as? BeerBarrelPolka May 2025 #63
Every spoken or written word is suspect. That's human nature. hunter May 2025 #19
That's my position also. The "Talk" and revision pages are valuable in their own right. erronis May 2025 #25
It is still "suspect." It's just that, like you say, you can generally check their sources...nt Wounded Bear May 2025 #3
I do occasionally. It's been years since I found a suspect source. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #11
Ai reformats work done by others samsingh May 2025 #4
One day per week Turbineguy May 2025 #6
IMO, AI is an amazing innovation anciano May 2025 #7
Current AI is Generative AI, not true AI. It doesn't reason, it makes stuff that looks reasonable. Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #8
I call it fAI for fakeAI. Calling it AI is such a joke. CrispyQ May 2025 #9
You are correct, of course. MineralMan May 2025 #12
Define sentience Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #16
This is similar to what has been done to bridge the "Uncanny Valley" in visuals. erronis May 2025 #28
Well, I consider artificial intelligence to be equivalent to MineralMan May 2025 #31
Okay, a bit of a start to definition Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #36
OK. Definitions can be difficult when the subject is abstract. MineralMan May 2025 #48
Good story and kudos to you. But you draw the wrong lesson and there are counters Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #51
Oh, I'm not saying that what they're calling AI will not be a useful tool. MineralMan May 2025 #52
I think you may have deep seated mystical beliefs preventing you from recognizing all its forms Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #56
Not mystical at all. MineralMan May 2025 #61
I'm open to the possibility that we've created an environment where AI could come about, CrispyQ May 2025 #21
I agree. What's this? Highlight Look Up Wikipedia underpants May 2025 #15
"starting point to other references" is exactly how it should be used RandomNumbers May 2025 #30
Steve Pruitt has a lot of time on his hands. underpants May 2025 #18
"AI" is not just another Silicon Valley gold rush Ponzi-oid investment bubble... paulkienitz May 2025 #20
If they have so much confidence in it, the first task we should assign AI is climate change. CrispyQ May 2025 #23
The #1 fix to climate change* is population reduction RandomNumbers May 2025 #34
That's the #1 overly simplistic fix, not the #1 realistic fix Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #38
"WEF and "globohomo" ??? RandomNumbers May 2025 #45
WEF is World Economic Foundation. "Globohomo" is the nutty concept that globalists and homosexuals are aligned Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #53
Ah, thank you. As usual, a "right wing talking point" is idiotic RandomNumbers May 2025 #58
Post removed Post removed May 2025 #55
Your exact words: RandomNumbers May 2025 #60
Contraceptive and abortion rights were never "active reduction". Exercising them is active prevention, not reduction Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #64
Oh yes, the 8 billion pound elephant in the room. CrispyQ May 2025 #44
Thank you. I blame lack of science education RandomNumbers May 2025 #49
"The thing is, we might still be able to turn things around relatively humanely..." CrispyQ May 2025 #65
Totally agree. RandomNumbers May 2025 #66
The potential is enormous, so is the danger. Joinfortmill May 2025 #26
I was recently going through the history of the moniss May 2025 #29
First off, AI is a tool... Much like a calculator JCMach1 May 2025 #32
Then, it is misnamed. MineralMan May 2025 #33
thanks for that explanation of your use of these tools. Real life applications are helpful. erronis May 2025 #35
The free to use baked in stuff is largely trash JCMach1 May 2025 #40
Ed Zitron and Cory Doctorow will agree. erronis May 2025 #46
In both your examples you are manipulating language... hunter May 2025 #50
It's problematic when legit news media cites AI written content as a source IronLionZion May 2025 #41
Wikipedia can be a useful starting point, but only that. And yes, generative AI slop is a growing problem there. Eugene May 2025 #43
AI (GPT) IS A TOOL. Layzeebeaver May 2025 #47
I agree The Bot's make up word salads. Historic NY May 2025 #54
Yes, sometimes they do. MineralMan May 2025 #57
I perfer Language Tool Historic NY May 2025 #59
Yes, AI is a tool, and probably a useful one. MineralMan May 2025 #62
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