General Discussion

Initech

(108,783 posts)

34. Well, to win the election, we have to break free of the 800 pound gorilla in the room no one wants to talk about.

Sun May 11, 2025, 09:07 PM

May 2025

Which is of course the "We report, you decide" network - Fox News. If we don't go after them hard, they will steal another election and the one after that. And the one after that. We must fight them with everything we have.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

6 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

AZProgressive Bettie oberle SheltieLover Prairie_Seagull pdxflyboy

111 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Should Democrats pin their 2028 hopes on the "safest white boy"? [View all] TheProle May 2025 OP

That was basically Biden in 2020. Seemed to work out at first... SSJVegeta May 2025 #1

You would have to add 'age under 70' to the list. NT anamnua May 2025 #20

Could help SSJVegeta May 2025 #25

You would have to add 'age under 80' to the list Polybius May 2025 #63

and I could see UNTIL IT DIDN'T from the start Skittles May 2025 #26

Yeah... hopefully that mistake is not repeated. SSJVegeta May 2025 #27

Well, to win the election, we have to break free of the 800 pound gorilla in the room no one wants to talk about. Initech May 2025 #34

The demographic who decided the last election, and will decide the next election, Jack Valentino May 2025 #72

There's definitely a special place in hell for Jill Stein and RFK Jr. Initech May 2025 #74

Jill Rfk WHO ?? Jack Valentino May 2025 #75

Well, Jill Stein only shows up every four years to fuck with elections and that's it. Initech May 2025 #78

The only two high level Democrats who have been able to rise above their Cosmocat May 2025 #84

Should have been content with one term exboyfil May 2025 #101

Sadly, yes synni May 2025 #2

Unless there is a "the one" mr715 May 2025 #9

I don't think he came out of nowhere. Mossfern May 2025 #15

I don't think we were alone in thinking that. N/T elocs May 2025 #18

Sorta kinda mr715 May 2025 #24

Yeah you're right mr715 May 2025 #23

i remember that night here on du. mopinko May 2025 #35

True but that was the kind of "A superstar just fell into our laps" moment that a party can't count on happening Midwestern Democrat May 2025 #59

There's always Michelle. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2025 #37

I knew someone who worked for her and said there was NO WAY she would run spooky3 May 2025 #54

Sadly, mr715 May 2025 #58

Yeah, too bad... Michelle would be a shoe-in. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2025 #86

Further, I think President Obama knows better than to nudge her one bit. Prairie_Seagull May 2025 #99

Maybe our new Chicagoan Pope could could have a word. Prairie_Seagull May 2025 #100

It's imperative for Democrats to win in '28. Pick a safe but exciting straight, white male candidate. elocs May 2025 #16

Rep. Jamie Raskin comes to mind, but IIRC a Congressmen becoming... brush May 2025 #80

Heck, I am just trying to get through the 2026 midterms Raven123 May 2025 #3

Focus on this. Biden built on the Blue Wave of 2018. Make a Blue Storm Surge of 2026 Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #5

I'm afraid this is correct Freddie May 2025 #4

I disagree Shrek May 2025 #32

Clinton would have won outright in 2008 Polybius May 2025 #64

I completely disagree... can name 3 excellent women as potential candidates in 3 seconds!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2025 #38

AOC for sure Polybius May 2025 #66

She might win in NY, but she would never carry swing states, imo SheltieLover May 2025 #76

I personally like AOC a lot Cosmocat May 2025 #85

That's one!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2025 #87

A correct, but incomplete statement DFW May 2025 #73

The problem isn't' the women Bettie May 2025 #97

If that's what happens it happens. JanMichael May 2025 #6

Who do you think she is referring to? Ars Longa May 2025 #48

Just a person that has an X and Y chromosome Bluestocking May 2025 #7

You're assuming that Obama would run again, an assumption I think is in doubt. elocs May 2025 #19

Shamed mr715 May 2025 #8

It is imperative that Democrats win in '28 & that means picking the candidate most likely to win. elocs May 2025 #10

Obama had a clear message Earl_from_PA May 2025 #12

And Obama was a moderate, not perceived as a lefty liberal. He was NOT a Bernie Sanders. elocs May 2025 #14

Only once in my lifetime has a party won three presidential elections in a row MichMan May 2025 #40

In 2007 the economy was crashing. markodochartaigh May 2025 #77

It was "imperative" for the Democrats to win in 2024 . . . GulfofMexico May 2025 #93

'24 has come and gone so its being imperative is irrelevant now. elocs May 2025 #111

I'm sorry, but Kamala Harris won this election. It was rigged: Trump said so ahead of time, he said Musk told him so, BComplex May 2025 #11

Kamala absolutely won. It's not how people vote, but who counts the votes. SheltieLover May 2025 #13

Zero doubt!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2025 #39

... SheltieLover May 2025 #45

Can you explain why Trump's the worst thing to happen to America in recent history and yet Democrats are polling behind? Doodley May 2025 #51

Kamala and Tim was a great ticket. taxi May 2025 #55

This Ferrets are Cool May 2025 #62

A lot of Democrats would have had to have aided in that Kaleva May 2025 #82

I disagree. I don't think Democrats actually "aided" in making trump president. I just think they were BComplex May 2025 #92

I don't think it has to be a white guy EdmondDantes_ May 2025 #17

Play it safe is not gonna cut it...a progressive fighter who touches the hearts and minds of the American people will!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2025 #41

A safe choice won't help in the face of Republican cheating. Chemical Bill May 2025 #21

The following boxes will have to be ticked: anamnua May 2025 #22

I think RandySF May 2025 #28

Republicans are not the only people who can go backwards. Turbineguy May 2025 #29

There are no "white" democrats in the running. multigraincracker May 2025 #30

Playing it safe will result in a loss. Morbius May 2025 #31

He lost because he was 'swiftboated'. NT anamnua May 2025 #42

I will grant the "Swiftboating" didn't help. Morbius May 2025 #49

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe May 2025 #43

So how did Biden win in 2020? Polybius May 2025 #67

Please not Newsom! WhiteTara May 2025 #33

No, but Pritzger would be phenomenal! SheltieLover May 2025 #47

agreed WhiteTara May 2025 #53

Obv, not my choice to make, bug I feel it's critical to have a candidate SheltieLover May 2025 #56

Lets HOPE we even have a Presidential election in 2028. NoMoreRepugs May 2025 #36

Now THERE'S something to think about!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2025 #44

Looks like low key 'Bad Things About Democrats' from here. Kingofalldems May 2025 #46

I don't think it is a good idea AZProgressive May 2025 #50

We better not re-run 2024 Historic NY May 2025 #52

I think it's a matter of giving the people what they want. If that's who they will support... pnwest May 2025 #57

Race and safety are the wrong things to focus on. Renew Deal May 2025 #60

Too obvious PeterIsMyBrother May 2025 #61

Will diversity be important in a Vichy government? jalan48 May 2025 #65

If Jasmine Crockett believes that, she is more than welcome to try and run herself in 2028 Polybius May 2025 #68

No, the person who is going to win... JCMach1 May 2025 #69

We should no more be looking for the "safest white boy" than we should be specifically looking for someone who is Ms. Toad May 2025 #70

Quite possibly on a 'white boy', or at least a 'boy'... Jack Valentino May 2025 #71

"I'd vote for the safest white boy, just not THAT safest white boy." betsuni May 2025 #79

IF there are elections in '28. That is remarkably hopeful for the pessimistic DU. elocs May 2025 #81

I hate it, but yes. Scrivener7 May 2025 #83

I'm for whoever makes it through the primary Buckeyeblue May 2025 #88

how about we just focus on having a mid term election right now? nt Javaman May 2025 #89

christian, married straight white guy lindysalsagal May 2025 #90

Whether we like it or not, Trump is revolutionary Iris May 2025 #91

I would go for Chris Murphy in a heartbeat. I think the important thing is we not exclude travelingthrulife May 2025 #94

I've spent so much money supporting women candidates ecstatic May 2025 #95

No, they don't have to do that, but what we should not do is nominate someone who is polarizing. everyonematters May 2025 #96

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone,,,,,,,,,,,, Ping Tung May 2025 #98

This time we need to vote to win at all costs. My principle right now is to save our Democracy from these fascists. Scrivener7 May 2025 #104

Not a fan of that kind of dismissive language.... Happy Hoosier May 2025 #102

Rep Crockett is one of our best voices these days. So no, she doesn't. Scrivener7 May 2025 #103

I like her. But if she's looking to aleinate people like me, she's succeeding. Happy Hoosier May 2025 #105

The words "white boy" have alienated you, and therefore we'll lose? Scrivener7 May 2025 #106

If a "White Boy" had campaigned like Kamala JI7 May 2025 #107

This. A disturbing amount of sexism and racism is coming from inside the house. Scrivener7 May 2025 #108

The power brokers need to stay out of this TheFarseer May 2025 #109

If they want to get the white-boy votes stillcool May 2025 #110