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karynnj

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44. Simpler solution. Require Congress to approve the expenditure of upgrading
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:46 PM
May 18

Yes, I know Republicans control both Houses. However, given that it is said to take more than a year to thoroughly upgrade AND he intends to take it with him, it should be a politically toxic vote for anyone concerned about the deficit.

A thorough analysis of all the costs, including:
1) the cost of upgrading
2) the excess cost of maintaining and storing the AF1 fleet ( the current default is storing the 2 old AF1s until the two new ones replace them. I assume Trump will continue using the old AF1s until his plane is updated. Question - what is the current time frame for the new ones? Will he really use a more than decades old plane rather than the new one?
3) after the plane is upgraded what are the extra fuel costs versus using the old AF1 or the new one if it becomes available?

My thoughts?
Wouldn't decorating one of the not completed new jets in his style be better than building new state of the art planes IN PARALLEL to upgrading a white elephant?
Are we maybe paying a fortune to buy Trump a status item for his library? If so, why not have Trump not use it as President and not upgrade it. ( Legally, I think he or his library needs to pay the Treasury the value of this gift. After the Obama term, there were articles on gifts that were given to the government, noting that some recipients paid the value to keep things given to them.)

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It's not that funny if the tax payer foots the bill. I'm betting we will end up doing it. Autumn May 15 #1
Seems hard to even "regift" them unc70 May 15 #2
Trump will/would come up with some stupid crap. chouchou May 15 #3
The appeal of some audaciously conceived aircraft never takes off. John1956PA May 15 #4
such a child dweller May 15 #5
Well, maybe he shouldn't fly anywhere if the current Air Force One is in such bad shape Walleye May 15 #6
As someone posted yesterday, let him have the plane, but restrict its access to the Newark Aiport only. spooky3 May 15 #15
Good one! Walleye May 15 #19
Most children hate hand-me-downs. vanlassie May 15 #35
It's illegal, end of story. LuvJoesPartner May 15 #7
Didn't the courts basically suspend the slightlv May 15 #25
Simpler solution. Require Congress to approve the expenditure of upgrading karynnj May 18 #44
K&R for, *DELICIOUS!* UTUSN May 15 #8
I wonder how much he'll charge his Secret Service detail... ECL213 May 15 #9
One month of his crypto grift profits not fooled May 15 #10
Retrpofit would cost more than the whole new plane if it were even possible. Mopar151 May 15 #32
Eiter GMTA or she reads DU Warpy May 15 #11
While there is no way in hell this should happen, ToxMarz May 15 #12
We should all send our garbage to Mag a Lardo Blue Owl May 15 #13
Ah yes, "The Art of the Deal!" colorado_ufo May 15 #14
Or in this case, "there's one born every minute..." n/t the nelm May 16 #38
It is the equivalent of buying a used ferry boat randr May 15 #16
Why The Qataris Are Happy To Dump Their 747 On Trump LetMyPeopleVote May 15 #17
Ignorant dumbass Iamscrewed May 15 #18
Trump is a Billionaire MissouriDem47 May 15 #20
or get one of his tech bros to buy it for him! slightlv May 15 #26
What if Congress refuses to allocate money to upgrade it karynnj May 18 #45
And while everyone is on this story madville May 15 #21
Trump IS the White Elephant. SleeplessinSoCal May 15 #22
They know an easy mark when they Figarosmom May 15 #23
Proving yet again MLWR May 15 #24
Beware Qataris bearing gifts. ret5hd May 15 #27
They found a chump!! Demovictory9 May 15 #28
Here in Pittsburgh, we have a different term for "white elephant" FakeNoose May 15 #29
It's not a gift. It's a bribe Prairie Gates May 15 #30
OMG LOL!!! 😂 AllyCat May 15 #31
The shart of the deal. Harker May 15 #33
Gotta remember, AF-1 is a sweet ride! Mopar151 May 15 #34
He expects to take a fully outfitted BidenRocks May 15 #36
If he takes the plane as his private property after stepping down, will it hasten his departure? BadgerMom May 16 #37
It's going to take two and a half years and $100 million to make it useful as Air Force One. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 16 #39
We all know the symbol of the (R) party is the Elephant. aggiesal May 16 #40
All of the uber-rich should be shamed and ostracized as a matter of course SpankMe May 16 #41
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote May 18 #42
These people are so rich they can pore 500mil into an airplane and dump it without much thought uponit7771 May 18 #43
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