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In reply to the discussion: I am just learning that it's uncommon for men 70+ to get PSA tests... why?? [View all]hlthe2b
(110,693 posts)4. While I am not necessarily in agreement, mind you:
The United States Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) guidelines advising against PSA testing for men aged 70 and older were revised in May 2018. Prior to that, the USPSTF had previously recommended against PSA testing for all men. The 2018 update specifically addressed men in the 55-69 age range, allowing for individual decision-making with their doctor after discussing the potential benefits and harms of the test, while continuing to discourage PSA testing for those 70 and older.
I am not a urologist, but I do understand the issues with this highly sensitive, but poorly specific test. What that means is that men with benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), a very common non-cancer enlargement that comes with age can also trigger an increase in PSA, so a digital exam is recommended. That said, the USPSTF also looked at the risk-benefits of aggressive treatment, whether surgery, radiation, or chemotherapy in men over the age of 70 with likely concomitant medical risk factors (e.g., heart disease, hypertension, etc.) and determined that the treatments and diagnostics from false positive PSA readings or even indicated treatments might pose more risk than benefit in this older age group. That is the thinking (along with some unnecessary cost issues, because MRI is the indicated test to sort it out at considerable expense).
Does any of the above really apply to a current or recent President whose medical care is basically unlimited? Probably not, but there are issues that Biden's physicians would have taken into account--whatever they might be.
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I am just learning that it's uncommon for men 70+ to get PSA tests... why?? [View all]
themaguffin
May 19
OP
It is faulty reasoning which is using outdated recommendations. PSA is simply a data point, and if it
JohnSJ
May 19
#11
My thinking is that I clearly didn't wind up finishing the post. My bad. I corrected it.
NoRethugFriends
May 19
#19
the husband of a dear friend died of dementia back last July. I was shocked. I had no idea one could die of dementia but
CTyankee
May 19
#23
In Alzheimer's, the brain deteriorates to the point it cannot handle basic bodily functions,
Midnight Writer
May 19
#24
Because the common "wisdom" is that if you're 70 or older, the relief is a hard thing on an older fellow ...
marble falls
May 19
#2
BPH can effect PSA values, but based on prostate size, density, PSA velocity, etc. They can reasonably
JohnSJ
May 19
#14
Those recommendations in regard to PSAs are outdated. PSAs are simply a data point which indicates
JohnSJ
May 19
#17
These are the official recommendations. While I clearly stated I as a professional do not necessarily agree
hlthe2b
May 19
#20
Yes, I agree it does need to be individualized, but the fact that the decision by too many physicians
JohnSJ
May 19
#29
I am not over 70 yet but I demand a PSA test at every yearly exam. You can choose to not treat if it is non-aggressive.
dutch777
May 19
#5
I'm a truck driver, so naturally I go for a physical every year at the VA including a PSA test,
MarineCombatEngineer
May 19
#6
My last PSA was 7.9. Supposedly, normal is 4.0 I am told. My doctor says the 7.9 is my normal.
OLDMDDEM
May 19
#7
Everyone is different. Our son is worried because his is over the 4.0 norm. My norm being in the
OLDMDDEM
May 19
#28
I order a PSA for every fifty+ year-old male coming in for an annual physical exam.
Aristus
May 19
#34