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Poll_Blind

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30. No- there are clearly TWO people in this dysfunctional relationship, and Obama's one of them.

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:05 PM

Dec 2012

Boehner could never grandstand like this without the kind of power that he gets from Obama. Democratic leadership wouldn't be begging the Presdent not to put social security on the table, the unions and the Bold Progressives wouldn't be desperately trying to push back against these things if Obama wasn't putting them on the table.

This is not "new". This is exactly the same thing that happened last time in, what, 2009? Obama increasingly puts more and more on the table, infuriating his base and Democratic representatives- only to be turned down by Boehner.

We won.

We should start negotiating from a position of strength and our first position of strength is if the GOP doesn't cut a deal with us on our terms, the sequestration cuts go into effect Jan 1.

PB

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The President enables this monster. Just watch Boehner's 50-sec press conference: [View all] Poll_Blind Dec 2012 OP

Fuck Boehner. ProSense Dec 2012 #1

I am about ready to walk out this building and just start shouting: Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #2

Didn't learn a damn thing from the last four years still_one Dec 2012 #3

I think the President should be responsible for the largest tax increase in history notadmblnd Dec 2012 #4

I would rather him and the party have going over the fiscal cliff... Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #8

I'm not sure your rant is well placed. el_bryanto Dec 2012 #5

Boehner is finished. Panasonic Dec 2012 #22

Boehner sounds like a strong leader n/t leftstreet Dec 2012 #6

sounds like a prick to me. spanone Dec 2012 #9

Boehner sounds like a fool whistling past the graveyard. Skidmore Dec 2012 #10

He's no leader, he's a 2-year old who knows he can push and just keeps pushin' nt Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #12

Weak. progressoid Dec 2012 #35

I have not commented or followed this very closely FirstLight Dec 2012 #7

considering? what's to consider? do it, please. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #14

Someone should ask the President ... markpkessinger Dec 2012 #18

You people act like Boehner isn't the speaker of the house. phleshdef Dec 2012 #11

you act like Boner's party won the last election Skittles Dec 2012 #13

I'm not acting like anything. As far as control of the House goes. They DID. phleshdef Dec 2012 #15

Hello. You're wrong. Panasonic Dec 2012 #23

Hello, you need to learn how to read a post before you reply to it. phleshdef Dec 2012 #43

boner is not responsible for obama's behavior nt msongs Dec 2012 #26

Who said he was? Try arguing against what I'm saying and not what you want to imagine I said. phleshdef Dec 2012 #44

Attemptint to justify Boehner's demands with "civics" is vile. nt Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #17

Where in the FUCK did I justify his demands? Point it out right now or take it back. phleshdef Dec 2012 #19

Your so-called valid point culminated in the sage "Take a fucking civics class". Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #25

I didn't explain anything away. You said something absurd. I corrected you. phleshdef Dec 2012 #42

CORRECT Skittles Dec 2012 #45

Yeah, it's sort of like blaming Mom because frazzled Dec 2012 #20

It will be very funny if the GNP (Grover Norquist Party) doesn't even give Boner aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2012 #16

so Obama is to blame for john boehner....that's some fucking looony insanity. spanone Dec 2012 #21

Boehner's leading the President around by the nose, and Obama's letting him. Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #24

boehner is showing the country he is an inflexible ass. simple as that. spanone Dec 2012 #27

No- there are clearly TWO people in this dysfunctional relationship, and Obama's one of them. Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #30

maybe Mr. Boehner Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2012 #28

And the president immediately responded, Doctor_J Dec 2012 #29

You hate Obama so much that you use Boehner as your bludgeon. Shameless. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #31

Blah fucking blah- Boehner has had the President by the nose before- and walked away. Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #33

Your bitterness must taste like acid in your mouth. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #36

Ah, hedging your bets in case he DOES, then? LOL! nt Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #37

hmmm, what are you referring to here? MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #40

Good point ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #32

You folks have all gone nucking futs. Now you're blaming President Obama for Boehner being an idiot? tjwash Dec 2012 #34

No, we're blaming him for not calling Boner an idiot Doctor_J Dec 2012 #38

No, he shouldn't be giving up so much to negotiatie with the idiot Boehner. nt Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #39

Herr Boehner using the President as a punching bag, setting him on fire, and then indepat Dec 2012 #41