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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:06 PM

Dec 2012

How propaganda works to change our expectations of the Democratic Party
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Pelosi: "I'm not thrilled" with Obama's fiscal cliff proposal - but it's not a benefit cut [View all] bigtree Dec 2012 OP

Yes. It. Is. !!!!! n/t TDale313 Dec 2012 #1

The 'technical' lying begins n/t leftstreet Dec 2012 #2

+1 xchrom Dec 2012 #5

Niiiiice. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #9

Ayup. n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #38

I think politicians refer to it as "careful parsing" n/t HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #42

It's not a cut if you do not believe in the concept of "inflation"... kentuck Dec 2012 #3

Not for her... SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #4

It damned well is. aquart Dec 2012 #6

A lower level of inflation treestar Dec 2012 #7

She's lying and it's despicable. cali Dec 2012 #8

You can't cut what never existed in the first place. Changing the rate of growth is not subtraction. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #17

bullshit. cali Dec 2012 #27

Thank you! Accurate post! marew Dec 2012 #30

I don't need to read all that drivel to know that cutting growth is not cutting benefits. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #31

lol. actually, it amuses me. cali Dec 2012 #35

Prove it then, Buttercup. And this time, try doing it yourself. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #39

pumpkin, I provided you with the information that you're too cali Dec 2012 #44

I have now read your "information" and the fact remains. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #48

you are the one doing the misleading. It's baffling. cali Dec 2012 #60

Are you saying it is a direct Benefit Cut or a Cut in the Rate of growth? MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #71

This is why they mislead. They couldn't beat him, so they're pissed even more now than before. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #68

They are incessant. And it's the same shit over and over. Boilerplate anti-Obama jingoism. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #69

It is a cut davekriss Dec 2012 #52

so does this mean, bigtree... Enrique Dec 2012 #10

Changing the rate of future growth does not cut existing benefits. Pelosi is right. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #11

it cuts already-scheduled benefits in the year after it's put in place, so yes, it's a lie. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #13

No, you are incorrect. You can't cut benefits that haven't been assigned yet. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #19

hair-splitting. cutting the cpi formula cuts benefits. it *does* take away purchasing power HiPointDem Dec 2012 #25

You call the truth "Hair-splitting". Why? Because you know you are spreading a falsehood. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #29

For crying out loud, it all depends on what the baseline is. Vattel Dec 2012 #50

actually, it's the opposite. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #72

Oh that will be a great comfort to those not receiving those benefits in the future. progressoid Dec 2012 #41

The average SS check will be more than $50 a month smaller in ten years. Tell someone trying doc03 Dec 2012 #47

Do you deny the truth of what I said? MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #49

What you are saying is double speak. You tell me what you would have said doc03 Dec 2012 #58

lie. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #12

Then she should be doing the negotiating! Eddie Haskell Dec 2012 #14

Nancy, before you piss in my ear and tell me it's raining please understand this. Autumn Dec 2012 #15

nancy pelosi is saying this is obama's proposal. again, coming from the democrats -- so would HiPointDem Dec 2012 #16

I am constantly amazed at how Kelvin Mace Dec 2012 #36

yeah, me too, dude. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #70

holy shit it's a done deal. aandegoons Dec 2012 #18

Nancy's worth 35 million dollars. She said Bush was innocent of crimes. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #20

per wikipedia, $58 mill net worth. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #23

I think chained cpi should be used on nancy's investment portfolio. for her $60 mill in net worth. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #21

How timely. woo me with science Dec 2012 #22

Here's what everyone is forgetting: ProSense Dec 2012 #24

Inflation is about to incur big time, that's how they plan on reducing the debt, the clues Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #37

This bottom feeder appreciates your concern. russspeakeasy Dec 2012 #26

Liar. Don't piss on me and tell me it's rain. forestpath Dec 2012 #28

The caving begins!!! Kelvin Mace Dec 2012 #32

The Dance of the Dry Powder. nt Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #34

It begins around the 1:52 mark. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #43

It isn't a cave when it is the plan. I think it is past time to stop pretending TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #66

Yes it is! doc03 Dec 2012 #33

It all depends on what the definition of "cut" is. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #40

Yes, yes it is nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #45

What a brazen fucking lie. nt woo me with science Dec 2012 #46

How about: It's unacceptable and I won't support it! ananda Dec 2012 #51

YOU'RE not thrilled, Nancy? Imagine how retirees like me feel! MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #53

if it walks like a duck,.... unblock Dec 2012 #54

What does she know? BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #55

Really? She really said that? MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #56

Not for her, she doesnt need Social Security, she's wealthy DJ13 Dec 2012 #57

They really seem to think we're idiots. /nt Marr Dec 2012 #59

BS - now she's sounding like a repuke. Shame on her. Stand up to him williesgirl Dec 2012 #61

You created this situation, Nancy, with your 2010 Keep-Bush-Tax-Cuts-for-the-Middle-Class Theater patrice Dec 2012 #62

Doublethink aandegoons Dec 2012 #63

No Congressman Pelosi, it is tantamount to a very flagrant and ugly tax increase, tho indepat Dec 2012 #64

The WH and her Congressional colleagues must be feeling the heat from activists and pro-SS caucus Larkspur Dec 2012 #65

Don't repeat Republican Lies buzzroller Dec 2012 #67

lol RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #73