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64. No Congressman Pelosi, it is tantamount to a very flagrant and ugly tax increase, tho

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:56 PM

Dec 2012

hidden, on the poorest and most frail among us to subsidize those earning $250,000+ who will now not have their taxes increased through any grand bargain reached. This is so diabolically cruel and inhumane that it will forever enshrine any Democrat who is party thereto as being very far to the right of center.

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Pelosi: "I'm not thrilled" with Obama's fiscal cliff proposal - but it's not a benefit cut [View all] bigtree Dec 2012 OP

Yes. It. Is. !!!!! n/t TDale313 Dec 2012 #1

The 'technical' lying begins n/t leftstreet Dec 2012 #2

+1 xchrom Dec 2012 #5

Niiiiice. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #9

Ayup. n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #38

I think politicians refer to it as "careful parsing" n/t HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #42

It's not a cut if you do not believe in the concept of "inflation"... kentuck Dec 2012 #3

Not for her... SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #4

It damned well is. aquart Dec 2012 #6

A lower level of inflation treestar Dec 2012 #7

She's lying and it's despicable. cali Dec 2012 #8

You can't cut what never existed in the first place. Changing the rate of growth is not subtraction. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #17

bullshit. cali Dec 2012 #27

Thank you! Accurate post! marew Dec 2012 #30

I don't need to read all that drivel to know that cutting growth is not cutting benefits. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #31

lol. actually, it amuses me. cali Dec 2012 #35

Prove it then, Buttercup. And this time, try doing it yourself. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #39

pumpkin, I provided you with the information that you're too cali Dec 2012 #44

I have now read your "information" and the fact remains. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #48

you are the one doing the misleading. It's baffling. cali Dec 2012 #60

Are you saying it is a direct Benefit Cut or a Cut in the Rate of growth? MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #71

This is why they mislead. They couldn't beat him, so they're pissed even more now than before. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #68

They are incessant. And it's the same shit over and over. Boilerplate anti-Obama jingoism. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #69

It is a cut davekriss Dec 2012 #52

so does this mean, bigtree... Enrique Dec 2012 #10

Changing the rate of future growth does not cut existing benefits. Pelosi is right. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #11

it cuts already-scheduled benefits in the year after it's put in place, so yes, it's a lie. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #13

No, you are incorrect. You can't cut benefits that haven't been assigned yet. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #19

hair-splitting. cutting the cpi formula cuts benefits. it *does* take away purchasing power HiPointDem Dec 2012 #25

You call the truth "Hair-splitting". Why? Because you know you are spreading a falsehood. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #29

For crying out loud, it all depends on what the baseline is. Vattel Dec 2012 #50

actually, it's the opposite. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #72

Oh that will be a great comfort to those not receiving those benefits in the future. progressoid Dec 2012 #41

The average SS check will be more than $50 a month smaller in ten years. Tell someone trying doc03 Dec 2012 #47

Do you deny the truth of what I said? MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #49

What you are saying is double speak. You tell me what you would have said doc03 Dec 2012 #58

lie. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #12

Then she should be doing the negotiating! Eddie Haskell Dec 2012 #14

Nancy, before you piss in my ear and tell me it's raining please understand this. Autumn Dec 2012 #15

nancy pelosi is saying this is obama's proposal. again, coming from the democrats -- so would HiPointDem Dec 2012 #16

I am constantly amazed at how Kelvin Mace Dec 2012 #36

yeah, me too, dude. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #70

holy shit it's a done deal. aandegoons Dec 2012 #18

Nancy's worth 35 million dollars. She said Bush was innocent of crimes. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #20

per wikipedia, $58 mill net worth. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #23

I think chained cpi should be used on nancy's investment portfolio. for her $60 mill in net worth. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #21

How timely. woo me with science Dec 2012 #22

Here's what everyone is forgetting: ProSense Dec 2012 #24

Inflation is about to incur big time, that's how they plan on reducing the debt, the clues Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #37

This bottom feeder appreciates your concern. russspeakeasy Dec 2012 #26

Liar. Don't piss on me and tell me it's rain. forestpath Dec 2012 #28

The caving begins!!! Kelvin Mace Dec 2012 #32

The Dance of the Dry Powder. nt Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #34

It begins around the 1:52 mark. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #43

It isn't a cave when it is the plan. I think it is past time to stop pretending TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #66

Yes it is! doc03 Dec 2012 #33

It all depends on what the definition of "cut" is. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #40

Yes, yes it is nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #45

What a brazen fucking lie. nt woo me with science Dec 2012 #46

How about: It's unacceptable and I won't support it! ananda Dec 2012 #51

YOU'RE not thrilled, Nancy? Imagine how retirees like me feel! MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #53

if it walks like a duck,.... unblock Dec 2012 #54

What does she know? BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #55

Really? She really said that? MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #56

Not for her, she doesnt need Social Security, she's wealthy DJ13 Dec 2012 #57

They really seem to think we're idiots. /nt Marr Dec 2012 #59

BS - now she's sounding like a repuke. Shame on her. Stand up to him williesgirl Dec 2012 #61

You created this situation, Nancy, with your 2010 Keep-Bush-Tax-Cuts-for-the-Middle-Class Theater patrice Dec 2012 #62

Doublethink aandegoons Dec 2012 #63

No Congressman Pelosi, it is tantamount to a very flagrant and ugly tax increase, tho indepat Dec 2012 #64

The WH and her Congressional colleagues must be feeling the heat from activists and pro-SS caucus Larkspur Dec 2012 #65

Don't repeat Republican Lies buzzroller Dec 2012 #67

lol RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #73