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Hekate

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59. "A little freedom"? That's what you call this free-fire zone?

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:02 PM

Dec 2012

"A little security"? That's what you call preventing the gruesome murders of 6 and 7 year olds?

You being so wise in the ways of military-strength guns and all, I'm sure you are aware that there will be no open coffins at their funerals. The murderer shot their little bodies repeatedly.

Peddle your poison elsewhere.

I watched this country go into a frenzy after 9-11 -- half of the American population couldn't give away the Bill of Rights fast enough. The USA PATRIOT ACT came off the storeroom shelf so fast it made our heads spin. Freedom of speech, press, association, all sacrificed in the name of "Homeland" security -- everything but the goddam guns.

Do not talk to me about sacrificing freedom for a little security.

Talk to me about the deaths of little children and their teachers who tried to shield them.

Hekate

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Funny -- saying "don't politicize this" IS politicizing it! n/t Beartracks Dec 2012 #92

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A video game. Popular with the kids, I understand. nt MADem Dec 2012 #84

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I never thought I'd live to see the day that people would trade freedom for a little security. pop topcan Dec 2012 #56

"A little freedom"? That's what you call this free-fire zone? Hekate Dec 2012 #59

Fine, go ahead and blame the inanimate object instead of the crazed bastard who used it. pop topcan Dec 2012 #63

That inanimate object allowed that guy to kill 26 people. neverforget Dec 2012 #91

I knew this thread wouldn't be complete without a pro-gunner thucythucy Dec 2012 #60

Didn't you forget the obligatory penis reference? pop topcan Dec 2012 #66

Screw em. I guess they aren't so law-abiding after all. Hoyt Dec 2012 #80

The Constitutional prohibition of Ex Post Facto is completely foreign to you, isn't it? pop topcan Dec 2012 #85

Nah, heard that crap from right wing bigots where I live for decades. Hoyt Dec 2012 #86

And I hear the opposite from left wing bigots. pop topcan Dec 2012 #88

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Please, I'm going to ask you to stop. Skidmore Dec 2012 #95

I will leave "your" thread, but not without saying you are a liar about what "matters" to me, and pop topcan Dec 2012 #98

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We are asking for some reasonable measures of gun safety. Skidmore Dec 2012 #62

Why in the world would you suppose I like the 'patriot act' just because I defend the RKBA? pop topcan Dec 2012 #65

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Don't know it, don't care. thucythucy Dec 2012 #74

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