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thucythucy

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60. I knew this thread wouldn't be complete without a pro-gunner

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:03 PM

Dec 2012

spouting the usual nonsense.

"Trade freedom for a LITTLE security"?

Yeah, the freedom for people like you to buy and play with their grown-up toys, versus "the little" security parents and grandparents would like to feel regarding the LIVES of their children and grandchildren. Your right to fantasize about being some hyper-virile "freedom fighter" standing up to the evil gubbermint, versus the "little freedom" of a child to not have his or her life snuffed out in an act of senseless violence.

I think it's becoming clear that there is a seismic shift going on. Just as the election in November demonstrated that the right wing bubble-people no longer rule American politics, the massacre of the innocents in December has shown that we as a culture are finally fed up with those with paranoid delusions writing our gun laws.

And it's about freakin' time.

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I'm back home and I just feel raw. [View all] Skidmore Dec 2012 OP

Kick n/t Dalai_1 Dec 2012 #1

K&R - "Something needs to change." Hell Hath No Fury Dec 2012 #2

You know what the kicker was? Skidmore Dec 2012 #3

My father is one of those "hysterical insurrectionist types" -- Hell Hath No Fury Dec 2012 #4

They guy I no longer claim as my brother is, as well. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #5

These people could probably use amuse bouche Dec 2012 #8

Yep. Although... GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #10

+++++ marions ghost Dec 2012 #18

But the thing is, 'they' don't see the sickness in their mindset ailsagirl Dec 2012 #27

the denial donquijoterocket Dec 2012 #43

Good point ailsagirl Dec 2012 #51

Need for these weapons = Illness of some sort tblue Dec 2012 #102

When I saw the officers at Sandy Hook EmeraldCityGrl Dec 2012 #15

This incident is bringing the nuts out. werknotgoin2takeit Dec 2012 #57

I have had 4 phone calls saying, "I told you" so re new gun control legislation. Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #71

That was before twenty kindergartners and their teachers thucythucy Dec 2012 #110

I understand that Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #117

Wow - no kidding about feeling held hostage be these assholes. calimary Dec 2012 #105

Oh how I feel your pain. ((hugs)) rivegauche Dec 2012 #6

I feel for the first responders and ME too amuse bouche Dec 2012 #9

Yup, the usually festive paper's Christmas party nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #7

K & R Liberal_Dog Dec 2012 #11

K&R CountAllVotes Dec 2012 #12

Regarding those over 50.... femrap Dec 2012 #40

I've found myself having similar thoughts. Skidmore Dec 2012 #44

I'm 53...the thought of some of the kids I knew having access to military-grade weapons is scary BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #77

Thank you for this story marions ghost Dec 2012 #13

yesterday I was riding the city bus... grasswire Dec 2012 #14

I Live In Florida... BUT No Christmas Here Either! ChiciB1 Dec 2012 #16

Thank you for this post. One thing that has increased my sadness ... Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #17

I think it has hit home for a several reasons. Skidmore Dec 2012 #19

My sentiments exactly demokatgurrl Dec 2012 #31

I agree robbob Dec 2012 #68

Funny -- saying "don't politicize this" IS politicizing it! n/t Beartracks Dec 2012 #92

Except that children HAVE been liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #20

Sometime a single event just crystallizes ideas and facts for people. Skidmore Dec 2012 #22

+1000 nt femrap Dec 2012 #42

I've noticed that somberness in Seattle too. And in me. nolabear Dec 2012 #21

Thanks for sharing your moment. yellerpup Dec 2012 #23

They were babies. Every time I think about it, I cry. ywcachieve Dec 2012 #24

I'm with you. I have cried about this just about every day since it happened, Plaid Adder Dec 2012 #25

I'm having a hard time sleeping qanda Dec 2012 #26

Yeah, no kidding. I started decorating a couple of weeks ago. It's been awfully busy around here calimary Dec 2012 #106

K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #28

I have seen a lot of pain. A LOT of it - and I've never cried so much Care Acutely Dec 2012 #29

Me, too. Skidmore Dec 2012 #30

Every time I see a television ad frazzled Dec 2012 #32

I actually got more agitated by a "Call of Duty" ad Patiod Dec 2012 #33

"Call of Duty" Hermes Daughter Dec 2012 #81

A video game. Popular with the kids, I understand. nt MADem Dec 2012 #84

Cannot imagine the families of those victiims having to watch tv ads now. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Lilma Dec 2012 #34

Skidmore, you give me hope Hekate Dec 2012 #35

Last night I Lilma Dec 2012 #36

K and R. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #37

Wonderful post, thank you... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #38

In Connecticut Please proceed Dec 2012 #41

I lost my 8-year-old son 13 years ago Still Sensible Dec 2012 #45

I am so sorry. I have an 8 year old daughter. Jennicut Dec 2012 #46

What great sorrow you must still bear. Skidmore Dec 2012 #47

I agree MissDeeds Dec 2012 #48

it is very hard Skittles Dec 2012 #49

Yeah, something definitely needs to change. Jester Messiah Dec 2012 #50

We need the hippie culture back-bad. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #52

This is the first year in my life that I haven't had a Christmas tree... ReRe Dec 2012 #53

"Bury your guns" -- just what I told a gun nut I used to know Hekate Dec 2012 #58

Bwaaaaaaah! ReRe Dec 2012 #67

Nice OP. blackspade Dec 2012 #54

+1 lunasun Dec 2012 #97

Like many here werknotgoin2takeit Dec 2012 #55

me too I haven't cried this much rbrnmw Dec 2012 #119

I never thought I'd live to see the day that people would trade freedom for a little security. pop topcan Dec 2012 #56

"A little freedom"? That's what you call this free-fire zone? Hekate Dec 2012 #59

Fine, go ahead and blame the inanimate object instead of the crazed bastard who used it. pop topcan Dec 2012 #63

That inanimate object allowed that guy to kill 26 people. neverforget Dec 2012 #91

I knew this thread wouldn't be complete without a pro-gunner thucythucy Dec 2012 #60

Didn't you forget the obligatory penis reference? pop topcan Dec 2012 #66

Screw em. I guess they aren't so law-abiding after all. Hoyt Dec 2012 #80

The Constitutional prohibition of Ex Post Facto is completely foreign to you, isn't it? pop topcan Dec 2012 #85

Nah, heard that crap from right wing bigots where I live for decades. Hoyt Dec 2012 #86

And I hear the opposite from left wing bigots. pop topcan Dec 2012 #88

Aww, I just don't like pointing out people's deformities. Sorry about your teeny peeny. Hekate Dec 2012 #83

HAHAHAHA...I wondered how long it would take some effete elite to do the PENIS reference. pop topcan Dec 2012 #87

Please, I'm going to ask you to stop. Skidmore Dec 2012 #95

I will leave "your" thread, but not without saying you are a liar about what "matters" to me, and pop topcan Dec 2012 #98

He (or she) has been on every thread since this happened..... llmart Dec 2012 #72

We are asking for some reasonable measures of gun safety. Skidmore Dec 2012 #62

Why in the world would you suppose I like the 'patriot act' just because I defend the RKBA? pop topcan Dec 2012 #65

...that people Would trade freedom for a little security...???? sheshe2 Dec 2012 #69

Oh, whatever. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #100

At the risk of offending the non-religious thucythucy Dec 2012 #61

How do you feel about 2 Kings 2:23? pop topcan Dec 2012 #64

Don't know it, don't care. thucythucy Dec 2012 #74

Nice, I do believe you're the first salad-bar agnostic I ever encountered. pop topcan Dec 2012 #89

It's "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." thucythucy Dec 2012 #109

In case you were wondering re. our little friend above . . . hatrack Dec 2012 #113

Good to know, thucythucy Dec 2012 #118

Thank you for this heartfelt post! sheshe2 Dec 2012 #70

I would bet this is going on nationwide..... llmart Dec 2012 #73

I seem to be surrounded by people who have tuned the whole thing out. undeterred Dec 2012 #75

Something IS going to change vlyons Dec 2012 #76

I don't know how people are thinking of anything else BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #78

Yet many of those same weeping people will fight to the death to ensure that kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #79

Not necessarily, there are many criminals who are hoping & praying for no more gun control. pop topcan Dec 2012 #90

Why have any laws because crooks break them anyway? neverforget Dec 2012 #93

Contrary to the binary thinking of many uneducated people, SOME laws are actually deterrents pop topcan Dec 2012 #96

I accept reality and there are about 8500 gun deaths (murder) per year in the US. neverforget Dec 2012 #99

Yes it does. davidthegnome Dec 2012 #82

I for one hope libodem Dec 2012 #94

MISSING FROM THIS THREAD: The Gun Clutching Crowd from DU Gungeon Land fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #101

You missed him just upthread - gone now, though. hatrack Dec 2012 #114

re:I'm back home and I just feel raw. allan01 Dec 2012 #103

About time the "good people " stood up and demanded action. wake.up.america Dec 2012 #104

Yes heaven05 Dec 2012 #107

Am in NYC TheOther95Percent Dec 2012 #108

Friday night, my husband cried himself to sleep LittleGirl Dec 2012 #111

Raw is the right word clyrc Dec 2012 #112

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #115

So far, the only response has been more gun purchases, more NRA members. Utter insanity Dems to Win Dec 2012 #116